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Old December 18th, 2005, 09:26 PM   #1
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Schoeps CMIT comparison mp4 video

Hi,

I have uploaded a short MP4 video that compares a 416 shotgun with the new Schoeps CMIT shotgun.

If you want to see it, it's in my On Line Archives in the Video folder.

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Old December 18th, 2005, 09:43 PM   #2
 
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Hey, thanks, Ty! Nice to hear it. I've only seen the CMIT, but not heard it til now.
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 06:24 PM   #3
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interesting comparison.

Thanks very much Ty,

I guess its an indication that i'm not a true audio guy, because i find your videos infinitely more informative than the audio alone. It helps a lot to see the setup while hearing it.

Over the last month i've been trawling every forum i could find about indy film audio gear and thanks to your diligence (and douglas spotted eagle) i've evolved from "i have $300 for a total audio package, what should i buy?" to "is the cmit or the 416 right for me?" without a single forum post (at least until now).

So I listened to your comparison fully expecting to hear similar mics or a superior sound from the cmit. Sure enough, one mic clearly sounded more intelligible, clearer, pleasant, etc than the other. But when i listened carefully to your mic scratchings, i realized that the mic that sounded day/night better to me was the 416, not the cmit.

I'm probably hearing the un-flat nature of the 416 and the "tractor beam" qualities of the 416, but since i am not an audio guy i have to ask...

Is the cmit really "better"? It seems that the 416 has its legacy because of its un-flat nature, so i cant entirely see why the "schoeps sound" in a shotgun is exciting. Please, if you would, share what your "golden ears" hear and let me know how to appreciate the sound of the cmit.

or... is it another one of the "its a different tool in the toolbox" scenarios, cause that would be mighty depressing. I had to work my butt off to get the cash for one shotgun and one hypercardioid so i'll make some unpleasant noises if i need TWO short shotguns to be cool.

Anyways, any comments about the layman's listen to the cmit v 416 would be appreciated.

Thanks again,

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Old January 2nd, 2006, 08:08 PM   #4
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Thanks very much Ty,

I guess its an indication that i'm not a true audio guy, because i find your videos infinitely more informative than the audio alone. It helps a lot to see the setup while hearing it.

Over the last month i've been trawling every forum i could find about indy film audio gear and thanks to your diligence (and douglas spotted eagle) i've evolved from "i have $300 for a total audio package, what should i buy?" to "is the cmit or the 416 right for me?" without a single forum post (at least until now).

So I listened to your comparison fully expecting to hear similar mics or a superior sound from the cmit. Sure enough, one mic clearly sounded more intelligible, clearer, pleasant, etc than the other. But when i listened carefully to your mic scratchings, i realized that the mic that sounded day/night better to me was the 416, not the cmit.

I'm probably hearing the un-flat nature of the 416 and the "tractor beam" qualities of the 416, but since i am not an audio guy i have to ask...

Is the cmit really "better"? It seems that the 416 has its legacy because of its un-flat nature, so i cant entirely see why the "schoeps sound" in a shotgun is exciting. Please, if you would, share what your "golden ears" hear and let me know how to appreciate the sound of the cmit.

or... is it another one of the "its a different tool in the toolbox" scenarios, cause that would be mighty depressing. I had to work my butt off to get the cash for one shotgun and one hypercardioid so i'll make some unpleasant noises if i need TWO short shotguns to be cool.

Anyways, any comments about the layman's listen to the cmit v 416 would be appreciated.

Thanks again,

-Andrew


In defense of the 416, it is an aggressively peaked standard for the industry.

Before I forget, it's sot of cool that you got what I was trying to say. I found using audio and video seemed to communicate a lot more fully, so, I'm being lured to the video side with my new XL2..

It's very common to prefer a brighter mic in comparisons. Be very careful, brighter is not always better. After a point, it's edgey and unnatural.

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