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Old May 14th, 2004, 03:27 PM   #301
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Sony vs Sennheiser Wireless

Anyone with suggestions on which I should get? I've been looking at the Sony wireless mic setup and also the Sennheiser. What I want to do is use a wireless lavalier mic but also have the capability to use the transmitter to connect to a mixing board via XLR or 1/4" adapter. Can both these units do this? Anyone better than the other?
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Old May 14th, 2004, 09:22 PM   #302
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Anyone hear of a Neumann-KMR81I shotgun mic?

A videographer friend of mine with a bigger budget than myself just picked up a Neumann-KMR81i shotgun mic for his PD-170. Neumann isn't even a company I'm familiar with- when I think shotguns I think Audio Technica or Senheisser. Does anyone know anything about this mic and how it compares against a, say...., Senheisser ME66? Thanks in advance!
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Old May 14th, 2004, 10:29 PM   #303
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Neumann basically wrote the book on microphone design.
After WW2 the Neumann factory that was in the allied zone in Berlin kept producing and was eventually bought by Sennheiser.

The location behind "The Iron Curtain" is now known as Micro Tech Geffel. They also have the right to the Neaumann name.

Neuman designs are what everyoine likes to copy or attempt to copy.

The KMR81i is supposed to be very neutal and smooth. It ought to be at $1200
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Old May 22nd, 2004, 03:50 PM   #304
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GL-2 Signal vs. Noise; Auto vs. Manual

so i just did a number of audio tests using my GL-2 w/ beachtek adaptor and AT-897 shotgun (camera mounted, battery powered). and i am confused by the results.

TEST #1:
audio set on "manual"
beach set on mono (splitting the signal, right?)
beach R and L knobs all the way open (10)
R channel on the GL-2 all the way open
L channel on the GL-2 about 2/3 open

note: these settings gave me a signal that was more-or-less peaking at the green VU dot on the LCD monitor.

TEST #2:
audio set on "auto"
beach set on mono
beach R and L knobs all the way open (10)
R and L channels on the GL-2 disabled (that's what happens when you're in "auto," right?

note: these settings gave me VU readings that peaked, for the most part, below -12, probably more in the -20 range, though perhaps even below.

in both tests i used my speaking voice at different volumes (from a whisper to quite loud), in a variety of positions--from 2.5' to about 15' away from the mike. the tests took place in my apartment, so were pretty controlled, barring the occasional passing car, blaring rap or salsa music, outside my window.

i was surprised to find that "auto" seemed to give me more signal, less noise then "manual," which gave an appreciable hiss. and i didn't hear any "pumping" or unpleasant auto-gain effects.

that said, the "manual" signal was quite a bit louder. when i watched the tape on my my TV/stereo, i had to bump the volume down a few notches to more-or-less match the volume of the "auto" take.

so my guts telling me to shoot my audio on "auto," 'cause it seems to be cleaner, but i'm mildly concerned about the output--do i need to worry that there may not be enough audio to work with in post if it sounds fine coming through my system at home?

finally, i'm not doing dramatic work. i just need servicible sound for a low-budget documentary. and i'm not in the market for any additional equipment, just want to make the most of what i have.

and let me tack on a boneheaded, somewhat off-topic Q: nowhere in the AT instructions does it explain which mic switch position is the bass rolled off. i'm assuming it's the hyphen graphic turned down slightly at one end. is that correct? (i performed the tests with both settings; it didn't affect the results.)

thanks for any thoughts on the above,
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Old May 22nd, 2004, 04:53 PM   #305
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getting low dialogue levels on the oktava

At 2 feet away from a talking head I am getting about -30dbFS. Is that right?
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Old May 22nd, 2004, 06:23 PM   #306
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Found it. Vegas Audio has a DIM OUTPUT button that was selected by default that drops your master audio levels by 20dB. "so you can hear the pizza delivery or the phone" per the vegas help files. gee thanks vegas, it took me some time to find this.
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Old May 28th, 2004, 04:34 PM   #307
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Custom Cables for XLR Boxes and DV Cams

I wanted to share this with the group cause I feel that if you find someone good, that does a great job at a great price and delivers on what you need, it should be shared.

With that in mind I'll paint the picture. You're using your cam and you add an XLR input box such as a Sign Video XLR pro, you mount it under the camera and you suddenly realize that you can't put your hand in the camera strap because there is a 2" long XLR plug feeding the input from your boom mic in the way.

In the past I'd have ordered the connectors, torn up a cable and soldered up a new cable to fit my needs. Those days and my eyes as well as patience are gone.

After much looking around on the web, I stumbled on several companies however I had a very specific request, I needed RIGHT ANGLE MALE XLR's to input into my XLR-Pro, everyone was offering straight males and right angle females to connect at the mic.

Then I got an eMail from Jim at who said he could do the cables, exactly at the lenghts that I wanted and with nice high quality Neutrix connectors which were (you guessed it) right angle!

I also needed a very specific screw on type connector for my Sennheiser 100 receiver as I wasn't in the mood to have it come loose during a shoot. Since the manufacturer chooses to use a screw on conectors I asked if he could spec it as well.

Bottom line (which is the way I shop anyway), is that this shop means business and customer satisfaction. The order that I needed was for (2) 1' XLR mic cables each with a right angle connector for my boom mic and (2) 1' 3.5mm mini-plug with screw on to XLR Male with right angle. Total cost about 85 bucks plus shipping.

This is very reasonable considering that you can drop 20 bucks on a mic cable without blinking (yes that would be for 20 feet) but consider that there is custom work and love in these cables!

Anyway, if anyone finds themselves in my situation and wants to clean up their cable mess on their cam, AVCABLE.COM and Jim Woodier is the man!

His tag line on his email is:
877-229-3601 (toll free)
"Cable Assemblies for Professionals Who Demand Quality"

I am in no way connected to or employed by avcable and this is strickly my personal opinion.
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Old May 28th, 2004, 10:17 PM   #308
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VASST Tour Student Report - Acid Class

This was an excellent class with Jeffrey and Douglass. I learned enough in the first hour to more than pay for the class.

Acid is much more than a loop-based music-maker. It really is a good multi-channel mixer and video scoring tool that can also help you make very good music. I think it just displaced Sound Forge as my most important video sound finishing tool.

If you have an opportunity, take this class even if you have no interest in using Acid. You will learn a lot about how to think about scoring a video and how to proceed to complete the project. Douglass adds many fine points about using music to create emotions. As a teaching tool, he made a video clip of a sunset become the prelude to almost any genre of movie just by changing the music.

The sound sweetening tips he gave us for voice-overs were, alone, worth the price of admission. And the tip about using a Senn 416 shotgun for those deep voice narrations was really valuable too.

Tired of your old Royalty-Free sound library. Jeffrey and Douglass will teach you how to spice it up so it sounds new. Perhaps even better than new.

Furthermore, this was no 5 hour class. We started at 9 AM and walked out at 6 PM. Ya get more than your money's worth from this crew. The freebies were nice too.

If you went to the same kind of film school I did, they ignored the contribution music makes to the success of any production. Nothing but lip service.

VASST paid me no money for this unsolicited commercial (nor any expensive gifts, either).
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Old May 30th, 2004, 09:54 PM   #309
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Dang, Mike! Thanks for the very cool review of the day. I've forwarded this to Jeffrey.
As you can see from my absence here on the forum this past week, traveling has kept me from being as active as I usually am and like to be.
It was a great pleasure meeting you, too.
Jeffrey and I love doing the ACID classes, and the Vegas, PPT, Advanced Vegas, Premiere, After Effects, Soundtrack, Now Hear This, and other VASSTs upcoming are just as fun, and hopefully as value-filled as you perceived this day to be.
Thanks again for the kind words, these are what makes it wonderful to be part of VASST.
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Old June 5th, 2004, 10:34 AM   #310
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AT-897 questions

I will be using a GL2 to make a short movie. I have been researching different mics and read through many threads in this forum, but am still confused. I have been looking at the AT897 mainly, and need to know a few things.

Can I get an XLR to mini-plug adapter and attach the mic to the top of the camera and still get good sound? Or do I need something like an XLR-pro?

Will I need to use the mic on a boompole above actors heads? Or can I just aim from the top of my camera? The short is going to be filmed in a small quiet room.

Does the mic come with attachments for the top of the camera?

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Old June 7th, 2004, 09:44 AM   #311
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if you aren't registered for the FREE SONY SOFTWARE SHOWCASE EVENT in NYC for tomorrow, (june 8) GET REGISTERED NOW!
Due to security reasons, the 550 Madison avenue building will NOT allow anyone into the showcase unless they are pre-registered.
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Old June 7th, 2004, 01:10 PM   #312
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FAiled to mention for those attending, bring PHOTO ID to get into the building~~!!
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Old June 8th, 2004, 03:32 AM   #313
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can i make a boom mic?

hi there,
i know this might be a stupid question but i cannot find anyother thread on this. can someone tell me if its worth building my own boom mic and what do you recommend for the mic, maybe even the mic that comes standard with the xl1? also should i make or buy the cable cord for the boom mic,

has anyone got a boom mic? please post pictures thanks!.

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Old June 8th, 2004, 10:59 AM   #314
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Hi Gavin!

I am assuming you have the microphone and are talking about making a boom-pole. Correct?

I bought one of those yellow light bulb removers from Home Depot, removed the bulb-gripper part, and added a section to the end that came from an old microphone stand. This works fine. As with any boom pole, don't extend the sections all the way so that it doesn't flex too much. Also, look into insulating the hand-end of the pole. I didn't try to run the wire through the pole...not sure that it's big I just use clips on the outside.

Currently, I boom with a cardiod studio microphone.

What I am lacking is a shockmount for the end, but with careful handling, I get by just fine.

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Old June 8th, 2004, 02:22 PM   #315
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dvx100A microphone setting


I have the Sennheiser ME-67 microphone with the K6 powering module and the AG-DVX100A camera.

Does anyone know about a particular audio setting with this camera called MIC GAIN? You have to set it either at the -50db or the -60db. The manual says it depends on the mic's sensitivity.

Can someone elaborate on that?

Thanks you very much!
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