All Things Audio -- topics from 2002 thru 2004

Bryan Beasleigh · July 9th, 2004, 09:36 PM

Stay away from that "stuff" and if it's a consumer mag stuff it where it belongs in the garbage or under the cat's litterbox. get back on track with quality gear.

Joel Iwataki · July 12th, 2004, 11:14 AM

Going to Northern Romania to find folk music for inspiration and enjoyment. But I want to share memories and I'm an audio engineer so I'm a bit of a gearhead. But I don't want this to be a "Busman's Holiday" and lug around a lot of gear. I want pictures so camcorder seemed good idea. I'm starting from zero. I plan to get Panasonic DV953 and MKH416 and Beechtek DXA6 and I will be traveling alone in a rental car. A few questions:
1) Are these good choices?
2) Will 416 pattern be too narrow for a group of 4-6 people? Will I have to stand too far back?
3) Would a stereo Mic be of any use? With a shotgun MS stereo can I record unmatrixed and use just cardiod side as Hypercardiod (shotgun)?
4) Can I use DV953 'AV input' to bypass mic pre and achieve equivalent of Greg Winter mod?
5) Do I need release form in case I want to sample or somehow use commercially?
This is a great forum, I wish I found it earlier. I'm leaving in 5 days to work in Berlin til Aug 1, then to Romania. Thanks in advance for qiuck answers.

Jeff Toogood · July 12th, 2004, 11:21 AM

Is there an adapter or box that will convert a line level feed to mic level?

I only have a MA-300 mic adapter on my GL2 and was just trying to prepare myself for any situation I may run into at some upcoming weddings.

Would be nice to run an output from the PA to the MA-300, but it only accepts mic level inputs.

Thanks

Joel Iwataki · July 12th, 2004, 01:01 PM

Actually I'm getting a Sony TRV900 camera.

Jacques Mersereau · July 12th, 2004, 02:30 PM

Yes, they are called *in line pads* and feature a resistor of your choice.
They look like what we call a female XLR barrel (or coupler) with the
resistor inside.

I would recommend a -20 or -30 dB pad. Beachtek uses a -50 and from
my experience it is too much. A hot mic like the K6/ME67 will overload
without using the -50 pad, but you don't get enough signal with it.

I don't know about the GL2, but the XL1 has a menu setting you can
adjust for -10 line level. You will need a pad if you want to tame the
+4 dBv tiger.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 12th, 2004, 03:22 PM

on the new Sound Forge book.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...A3920%3A105315

Mike Rehmus · July 12th, 2004, 04:04 PM

Ordered.

Thanks for the heads-up

Graham Budd · July 12th, 2004, 07:32 PM

Before ordering a G2 100 ENG kit (when available) I'm trying to understand which frequency range I should select & why.

FWIW I am in New Zealand.

The frequencies offered are:-

A: 518 - 554MHz
B: 626 - 662MHz
C: 740 - 776MHz
D: 786 - 822MHz
E: 830 - 886MHz

Thanks in advance

Graham

Jonas Hansen · July 13th, 2004, 10:25 AM

Hi,

Im planning to make a low-budget movie, and I could need some advice. Here's the question:

You think I would need a seperate mixer, when I already have the 'Marantz PMD222'?
http://www.american-digital.com/prodsite/product.asp?p=165

Im just going to use 1 mic.

Thanks for your time!

Dwight Flynn · July 14th, 2004, 11:00 PM

Anyone know of a good primer for adobe audition. BTW, for those in the know, how does it stack up to soundforge (subjective I know but I am asking for an opinion. I will use them mainly for voice editing of in camera and dat audio).

Thanks

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 15th, 2004, 06:41 AM

Ron Dabbs has a great book on Audition, available at Amazon, etc. or check out http://www.cmpbooks.com

Dan Measel · July 15th, 2004, 01:15 PM

I shot my last project with a VX2000, SGM2X and Beachtek DX4A adaptor and I was pretty happy with the results. Unfortunately my wife ran the beachtek through the washing machine recently (it was in a suitcase with clothes). Anyway, since I need a new beachtek I was also considering upgrading my mic and the AT4073A has pretty good reviews on this site. Which Beachtek device would be best for use with this mic. And if I stayed with the SGM2X would one of the devices with phantom power add anything more to the setup?

Bryan Beasleigh · July 15th, 2004, 02:22 PM

Best is going to be the DXA-8 that has reamplification , 48 volt phantom and limiters. The DXA-8 will allow you to limit the onboard preamps to 355 or less gain. This will give you niticeably better audio.

This rig can on'y help your audio quality even with the azden.

AT mics are a definite improvement on the Azden

Mike Rehmus · July 16th, 2004, 05:44 PM

Very small lav, sounds good, no visible wires - I've not seen it, just read the info on RAMPS

http://www.ricsonix.com/frame.htm

Kevin Galliford · July 17th, 2004, 11:54 AM

I have an AudioTechnica ATR55 Shotgun mic with a mini jack plug that I use ontop of my GL2 for a better external mic. I just purchased a shock mount and a boom pole for the microphone.

My question is, can I get an extended 12 foot cable or so (i've seen them) to hook up to the microphone and have it go directly into the mini jack on the camera, or is that a bad idea? Or should I invest in a XLR adaptor and use XLR imputs? I'm not concerned about it coming unplugged, but a difference in sound between straight use of a mini jack or the XLR. Does the minijack have bad sound when there is a extended cable.

I will have a friend who will hold the boom pole for me directed to the subjects while I film, and the wire from the boom pole will go to the GL2? Please help me if any of you have a similar setup.

I can use all the advice, Ive searched all the forums and dont see much.

July 9th, 2004, 09:36 PM	#346
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Stay away from that "stuff" and if it's a consumer mag stuff it where it belongs in the garbage or under the cat's litterbox. get back on track with quality gear. __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ".......holy smokin rubber lips...what a ride!"

July 12th, 2004, 11:14 AM	#347
Joel Iwataki New Boot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 13	Equip questions for Folk Music in Romania Going to Northern Romania to find folk music for inspiration and enjoyment. But I want to share memories and I'm an audio engineer so I'm a bit of a gearhead. But I don't want this to be a "Busman's Holiday" and lug around a lot of gear. I want pictures so camcorder seemed good idea. I'm starting from zero. I plan to get Panasonic DV953 and MKH416 and Beechtek DXA6 and I will be traveling alone in a rental car. A few questions: 1) Are these good choices? 2) Will 416 pattern be too narrow for a group of 4-6 people? Will I have to stand too far back? 3) Would a stereo Mic be of any use? With a shotgun MS stereo can I record unmatrixed and use just cardiod side as Hypercardiod (shotgun)? 4) Can I use DV953 'AV input' to bypass mic pre and achieve equivalent of Greg Winter mod? 5) Do I need release form in case I want to sample or somehow use commercially? This is a great forum, I wish I found it earlier. I'm leaving in 5 days to work in Berlin til Aug 1, then to Romania. Thanks in advance for qiuck answers.

July 12th, 2004, 11:21 AM	#348
Jeff Toogood Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St.Thomas, Ontario, CANADA Posts: 428	Converting line level to Mic level?? Is there an adapter or box that will convert a line level feed to mic level? I only have a MA-300 mic adapter on my GL2 and was just trying to prepare myself for any situation I may run into at some upcoming weddings. Would be nice to run an output from the PA to the MA-300, but it only accepts mic level inputs. Thanks __________________ Toogood Studios

July 12th, 2004, 01:01 PM	#349
Joel Iwataki New Boot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 13	trv900 instead Actually I'm getting a Sony TRV900 camera.

July 12th, 2004, 02:30 PM	#350
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	Yes, they are called in line pads and feature a resistor of your choice. They look like what we call a female XLR barrel (or coupler) with the resistor inside. I would recommend a -20 or -30 dB pad. Beachtek uses a -50 and from my experience it is too much. A hot mic like the K6/ME67 will overload without using the -50 pad, but you don't get enough signal with it. I don't know about the GL2, but the XL1 has a menu setting you can adjust for -10 line level. You will need a pad if you want to tame the +4 dBv tiger. __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager

July 12th, 2004, 03:22 PM	#351
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Walmart has a great price... on the new Sound Forge book. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...A3920%3A105315 __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

July 12th, 2004, 04:04 PM	#352
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Ordered. Thanks for the heads-up __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

July 12th, 2004, 07:32 PM	#353
Graham Budd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 28	Sennheiser G2 100-ENG RF Carrier Frequencies Before ordering a G2 100 ENG kit (when available) I'm trying to understand which frequency range I should select & why. FWIW I am in New Zealand. The frequencies offered are:- A: 518 - 554MHz B: 626 - 662MHz C: 740 - 776MHz D: 786 - 822MHz E: 830 - 886MHz Thanks in advance Graham

July 13th, 2004, 10:25 AM	#354
Jonas Hansen New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 17	Can you help? Hi, Im planning to make a low-budget movie, and I could need some advice. Here's the question: You think I would need a seperate mixer, when I already have the 'Marantz PMD222'? http://www.american-digital.com/prodsite/product.asp?p=165 Im just going to use 1 mic. Thanks for your time!

July 14th, 2004, 11:00 PM	#355
Dwight Flynn Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 393	looking for primer on Audition Anyone know of a good primer for adobe audition. BTW, for those in the know, how does it stack up to soundforge (subjective I know but I am asking for an opinion. I will use them mainly for voice editing of in camera and dat audio). Thanks

July 15th, 2004, 06:41 AM	#356
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Ron Dabbs has a great book on Audition, available at Amazon, etc. or check out http://www.cmpbooks.com __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

July 15th, 2004, 01:15 PM	#357
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	Which beachtek adaptor should I get? I shot my last project with a VX2000, SGM2X and Beachtek DX4A adaptor and I was pretty happy with the results. Unfortunately my wife ran the beachtek through the washing machine recently (it was in a suitcase with clothes). Anyway, since I need a new beachtek I was also considering upgrading my mic and the AT4073A has pretty good reviews on this site. Which Beachtek device would be best for use with this mic. And if I stayed with the SGM2X would one of the devices with phantom power add anything more to the setup?

July 15th, 2004, 02:22 PM	#358
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Best is going to be the DXA-8 that has reamplification , 48 volt phantom and limiters. The DXA-8 will allow you to limit the onboard preamps to 355 or less gain. This will give you niticeably better audio. This rig can on'y help your audio quality even with the azden. AT mics are a definite improvement on the Azden __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ".......holy smokin rubber lips...what a ride!"

July 16th, 2004, 05:44 PM	#359
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Very small lav, sounds good, no visible wires Very small lav, sounds good, no visible wires - I've not seen it, just read the info on RAMPS http://www.ricsonix.com/frame.htm __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

July 17th, 2004, 11:54 AM	#360
Kevin Galliford Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: USA Posts: 139	Boom Mic's, Help I have an AudioTechnica ATR55 Shotgun mic with a mini jack plug that I use ontop of my GL2 for a better external mic. I just purchased a shock mount and a boom pole for the microphone. My question is, can I get an extended 12 foot cable or so (i've seen them) to hook up to the microphone and have it go directly into the mini jack on the camera, or is that a bad idea? Or should I invest in a XLR adaptor and use XLR imputs? I'm not concerned about it coming unplugged, but a difference in sound between straight use of a mini jack or the XLR. Does the minijack have bad sound when there is a extended cable. I will have a friend who will hold the boom pole for me directed to the subjects while I film, and the wire from the boom pole will go to the GL2? Please help me if any of you have a similar setup. I can use all the advice, Ive searched all the forums and dont see much.

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