Any of you use ProTool or ACID? at DVinfo.net

Yi Fong Yu · March 20th, 2006, 07:36 AM

yesh i realize most musicians utilize this tool. whether they do their final mix from these synthetic sounds or record real life instruments is not the issue.

the issue is, is it a good audio editor or it is strictly track creation? do you utilize it with your favorite NLE? if so, how? for example, during audio post, do you do so in NLE or take the video into ProTool/Acid?

Chris Luker · March 20th, 2006, 01:52 PM

I use Protools. I am a full time Audio Guy, part time DV enthusiast... I only use Protools in video to sweeten up my audio tracks that don't sound 'right' in FCP (noise reduction, leveling, taking pops out, FX...) and to record and mix/master background music. Protools is a great audio editor. I think any audio specific editor will make life easier for editing audio than any NLVE (V for video). Adobe Audition is a great tool as well, especially the frequency spectrum editing window...WOW!
My audio setup cost 10 times what my camera setup cost me as I have a bunch of plug-ins, monitors[audio], interfaces/converters, digital mixer, synths etc.... Audio Guy here, trying to get the Mrs. to let me be a Video Guy...

John Rofrano · March 20th, 2006, 02:28 PM

I use Sony ACID for music composition, but I do my Audio Editing in Sony Sound Forge. From my NLE (Sony Vegas) I just right-click on my audio, select Open in Sound Forge from the context menu and do all my processing there in Sound Forge. When I save and switch back to Vegas, my new audio is right there on the time-line as if by magic. Vegas and Sound Forge are very tightly integrated (as is ACID and Sound Forge).

~jr

Yi Fong Yu · March 20th, 2006, 07:45 PM

doesn't DSE use Vegas as his audio editor as well?

BTW chris, do you mix music in 5.1 (or more channels) or just stereo?

Seth Bloombaum · March 20th, 2006, 08:53 PM

Vegas is a great audio editor too - it started out as a non-destructive multitrack audio editor.

I tend to use it more than Sound Forge, mostly because I'm more familiar with it and therefore faster, but I also frequently have more than 2 tracks. Forge is a mono or stereo editor. Same plugins support both, and both are worth having.

I use Forge all the time for transfers from analog, it has a great recording interface. And Forge will do a few tricks that Vegas doesn't. IMHO both are best!

Steve House · March 21st, 2006, 05:41 AM

A number of ProTools users are switching over to Nuendo and finding they can do everything the did in ProTools with a more flexible workflow and lower hardware invenstment.

Yi Fong Yu · March 21st, 2006, 07:54 AM

you guys ever used open source *nix knock-off's of protool/acid/nuendo? for example a knock off of sound forge is audacity, which is FREE! =).

Phil Hover · March 21st, 2006, 11:03 AM

I use nuendo - used to use Pro Tools. I also have, soundtrack pro, audition, sound forge, vegas, and moog.

Jeff Patnaude · March 21st, 2006, 12:58 PM

I use ProTools HD192. I'm an audio eng and videographer at work, and a non-aspiring musician at home. I use Cubase, Soundtrack Pro, Peak, and some others. They each have their strengths. Protools has a great sounding interface. I like to do utility edits with Peak however. It's great for taking out breaths and noise. I think you can also "convolve" some sounds together and really get some cool, wanked stuff for recording. Protools is awesome. I've gotten animations from our graphics guy, and then sync music and add fx layers for a final video open for a show. Good fun, and won an award (not a big deal).
Soundtrack Pro has been good for making loop-based music for some of my video productions, and has saved me the worry of copyright problems.

Jeff P

Seth Bloombaum · March 21st, 2006, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yi Fong Yu

you guys ever used open source *nix knock-off's of protool/acid/nuendo? for example a knock off of sound forge is audacity, which is FREE! =).

I've used Audacity - it's good. Other than being a stereo wav editor, I'd not describe it as a sound forge knockoff, but it is a good tool. I use both.

If it does what you need, great. Free is a good price!

Bruce S. Yarock · March 21st, 2006, 07:39 PM

Nuendo all the way. Wavelab for mixdown and mastering.
Bruce yarock

Jay Kavi · March 21st, 2006, 08:13 PM

Aside from protools, i really like audition. i wish it was available for mac.

Yi Fong Yu · March 22nd, 2006, 12:44 AM

while i haven't used audacity extensively (i ain't musician), i have used open source software such as firefox, gimp, inkscape, etc. one of the great benefits of using a software from the community is the expandability. think of those extensions and plugins. well the same applies for audacity:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/plugins

i'm fairly certain that any feature you want from sound forge that isn't in audacity base install is readily available as a plugin (often free).

Jared Silvia · March 30th, 2006, 10:44 PM

Protools is a really great editing tool because of it's speed... though, I admit, the cost of the hardware is a bit of a problem. Even more so is that to truly work with timecode properly you need the DV Toolkit which is an extra-cost plugin.

All that being said, though, I've found my m-box (the cheapest digidesign card, note they make a version now that will work with any of the MAudio cards called "M-Powered") to be a very stable and useful audio interface and protools has been really really useful in every project I've worked on both Audio intensive and Video intensive.

Glenn Davidson · March 30th, 2006, 11:46 PM

I use Protools all day, every day. I use the Digi 002 rack, 4 Glyph drives, and a rack of external hardware. I love my Protools!

March 20th, 2006, 07:36 AM	#1
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	Any of you use ProTool or ACID? yesh i realize most musicians utilize this tool. whether they do their final mix from these synthetic sounds or record real life instruments is not the issue. the issue is, is it a good audio editor or it is strictly track creation? do you utilize it with your favorite NLE? if so, how? for example, during audio post, do you do so in NLE or take the video into ProTool/Acid? __________________ bow wow wow

March 20th, 2006, 02:28 PM	#3
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	I use Sony ACID for music composition, but I do my Audio Editing in Sony Sound Forge. From my NLE (Sony Vegas) I just right-click on my audio, select Open in Sound Forge from the context menu and do all my processing there in Sound Forge. When I save and switch back to Vegas, my new audio is right there on the time-line as if by magic. Vegas and Sound Forge are very tightly integrated (as is ACID and Sound Forge). ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

March 20th, 2006, 07:45 PM	#4
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	doesn't DSE use Vegas as his audio editor as well? BTW chris, do you mix music in 5.1 (or more channels) or just stereo? __________________ bow wow wow

March 21st, 2006, 05:41 AM	#6
Steve House Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,742	A number of ProTools users are switching over to Nuendo and finding they can do everything the did in ProTools with a more flexible workflow and lower hardware invenstment. __________________ Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!

March 21st, 2006, 07:54 AM	#7
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	you guys ever used open source *nix knock-off's of protool/acid/nuendo? for example a knock off of sound forge is audacity, which is FREE! =). __________________ bow wow wow

March 20th, 2006, 01:52 PM	#2
Chris Luker Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Woods Cross, Utah Posts: 310	I use Protools. I am a full time Audio Guy, part time DV enthusiast... I only use Protools in video to sweeten up my audio tracks that don't sound 'right' in FCP (noise reduction, leveling, taking pops out, FX...) and to record and mix/master background music. Protools is a great audio editor. I think any audio specific editor will make life easier for editing audio than any NLVE (V for video). Adobe Audition is a great tool as well, especially the frequency spectrum editing window...WOW! My audio setup cost 10 times what my camera setup cost me as I have a bunch of plug-ins, monitors[audio], interfaces/converters, digital mixer, synths etc.... Audio Guy here, trying to get the Mrs. to let me be a Video Guy...

March 20th, 2006, 08:53 PM	#5
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Vegas is a great audio editor too - it started out as a non-destructive multitrack audio editor. I tend to use it more than Sound Forge, mostly because I'm more familiar with it and therefore faster, but I also frequently have more than 2 tracks. Forge is a mono or stereo editor. Same plugins support both, and both are worth having. I use Forge all the time for transfers from analog, it has a great recording interface. And Forge will do a few tricks that Vegas doesn't. IMHO both are best!

March 21st, 2006, 11:03 AM	#8
Phil Hover Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Costa Mesa, The OC, CA Posts: 87	I use nuendo - used to use Pro Tools. I also have, soundtrack pro, audition, sound forge, vegas, and moog.

March 21st, 2006, 12:58 PM	#9
Jeff Patnaude Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Duluth, Georgia Posts: 248	I use ProTools HD192. I'm an audio eng and videographer at work, and a non-aspiring musician at home. I use Cubase, Soundtrack Pro, Peak, and some others. They each have their strengths. Protools has a great sounding interface. I like to do utility edits with Peak however. It's great for taking out breaths and noise. I think you can also "convolve" some sounds together and really get some cool, wanked stuff for recording. Protools is awesome. I've gotten animations from our graphics guy, and then sync music and add fx layers for a final video open for a show. Good fun, and won an award (not a big deal). Soundtrack Pro has been good for making loop-based music for some of my video productions, and has saved me the worry of copyright problems. Jeff P

March 21st, 2006, 07:39 PM	#11
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Nuendo all the way. Wavelab for mixdown and mastering. Bruce yarock

March 21st, 2006, 08:13 PM	#12
Jay Kavi Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 243	Aside from protools, i really like audition. i wish it was available for mac.

March 22nd, 2006, 12:44 AM	#13
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	while i haven't used audacity extensively (i ain't musician), i have used open source software such as firefox, gimp, inkscape, etc. one of the great benefits of using a software from the community is the expandability. think of those extensions and plugins. well the same applies for audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/plugins i'm fairly certain that any feature you want from sound forge that isn't in audacity base install is readily available as a plugin (often free). __________________ bow wow wow

March 30th, 2006, 10:44 PM	#14
Jared Silvia New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 23	Protools is a really great editing tool because of it's speed... though, I admit, the cost of the hardware is a bit of a problem. Even more so is that to truly work with timecode properly you need the DV Toolkit which is an extra-cost plugin. All that being said, though, I've found my m-box (the cheapest digidesign card, note they make a version now that will work with any of the MAudio cards called "M-Powered") to be a very stable and useful audio interface and protools has been really really useful in every project I've worked on both Audio intensive and Video intensive.

March 30th, 2006, 11:46 PM	#15
Glenn Davidson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nevada City, California Posts: 499	I use Protools all day, every day. I use the Digi 002 rack, 4 Glyph drives, and a rack of external hardware. I love my Protools!