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Old April 13th, 2006, 10:56 AM   #1
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Lavalier clothing noise questions

Hey all,

Just curious what solutions any of you have come up with mic'ing someone with a wireless lav underneath a t-shirt. Right now I have a subject who is into weightlifting and therefore pretty built so I've placed the lav in the concavity between his pecs with tape. Unfortunately it's not great at getting rid of clothing rustle and I would love to hear any solutions or techniques that have been successfully used to, if not eliminate, then minimize it.

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Old April 13th, 2006, 11:02 AM   #2
 
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flexible bandaids, moleskin, and silk are all options. Gaffers tape to secure it to his clothing can help. Can you avoid a lav overall, and use a hyper on a boom?
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Old April 13th, 2006, 11:43 AM   #3
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I know they make those wire thin mics that go around the ear, but I agree with the Great Doug, try a boom or something.


Then there is plan B, naked actors. But you might have to have a special permit.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 11:44 AM   #4
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I got Videography yesterday and a tip in it was to use the client's (unless you were so rich you did not care to loss it) credit card behind the lapel to stiffen it up. That might help as the tendency to fold over would be reduced if it is a rustle caused by direct contact.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 11:45 AM   #5
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Hi Matthew

Try reading the section 'Noise considerations' about half-way down the page on this link:
http://www.locationsound.com/proaudi...chtips8_4.html

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Old April 13th, 2006, 11:52 AM   #6
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Unfortunately any mic on a boom is not an option. Any ideas with regard to stabilizing the clothing around the mic using double sided tape or folded over gaff tape? I've seen that article on locationsound.com before, but it seemed somewhat confusing to me (maybe because I haven't had the chance to try it out in real life yet).



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Old April 13th, 2006, 02:37 PM   #7
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Mathew,

Just off the top of my head, as long as you can't see through the clothing, you could build some hard casing of some sort that would suspend the clothing over the mic, in other words, attach the mic to the skin or undergarment, then use maybe a wire mesh over the mic, maybe a piece of window screen, I know I sound ghetto here, but sometimes you have to think outside the box.......................if that doesn't work, take the box stick an M80 in it and blow it to pieces.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 01:16 PM   #8
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I created small felt pockets that can be taped under clothing for a lot of the situations I shoot.

They're barely larger than the mic itself (Countryman B3) and are in different shades to help hide them if they're in a visible location (grey, black and white). They're about 1" x 1/2".

When taping them under t-shirts I just tape the bottom of the felt pocket to the lav wire, then secure it inside of the shirt. The end of the felt pocket is left free. Generally there's little or no clothing noise or wire rub. Works like a moleskin. It also helps cut down on wind noise.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 05:28 PM   #9
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These work very well. I use them with countryman B6 mics and always get compliments on the high quality of our audio from producers.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...lue=294444_REG


"The Rycote Undercover pads are a disposable mount and windshield used for mounting lavalier microphones underneath clothing. There are 3 sheets of 10 pads (30 pads total) supplied in each package. The pads are double coated with a peel-off adhesive and a soft-woven material. The adhesive is peeled onto clothing, providing a tacky mounting surface for lavalier microphones. The woven fabric disc is placed over the microphone and adhesive surface, sandwiching the microphone and eliminating structure and rustling noise
caused by movement of clothing, cables, etc."
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