I need help picking a great mic for my film! at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio

All Things Audio
Everything Audio, from acquisition to postproduction.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old April 30th, 2006, 01:29 PM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Pittsfield, MA
Posts: 86
I need help picking a great mic for my film!

Iím looking for a good microphone for my film thesis. I am shooting a narrative film on a Sony HDR-FX1 with a Beachtek DXA-FX Audio Adapter. The film takes place mostly outside in the deep woods. I will have lots of people in my film, battle scenes, camp fire scenes, a cave scene, as well as scenes in NY City: subway, downtown streets, interior buildings, elevator sceneÖ

My Question is, with all my audio needs, what kind of microphone would best serve me for: action, dialogue between multiple people, intimate interior and busy exterior, and the recording of SFX (foley)?

Wireless would only be used for close ups in very tight spaces (cave) so Iím looking for a good single mic to use on a boom. I'm thinking about buying the Sennheiser ME66/K6 - Super-Cardioid Short Shotgun Condenser Microphone Capsule with K6 (Battery/Phantom) Power Supply. A good choice?

Are there any good books/websites that discuss the different types of mic uses and setups? And how to choose the right Windscreen? Help!
William N Zarvis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 30th, 2006, 02:18 PM   #2
Trustee
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,483
What price range are you looking at?
Dave Largent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 30th, 2006, 03:38 PM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 259
Hi William,
There is a ton of advice from experienced people on this forum that will directly answer your questions. Do a little search through the audio section here.

For my two cents, I'll just say that, if you are doing story telling, plan to spend as much time, attention and money on audio as you do picture. I am thouroghly convinced that it's the most important and yet neglected area of student and very low budget productions. I just saw a relatively low budget feature the other night that was shot on a Sony F900 HD cam. The picture and cinematography was very good, but the sound was not and the film totally suffered because of it. The story was hard to follow and it became very distracting - and they had fair production value otherwise. Think about it, could you watch a movie with out sound?
__________________
MW
Matthew Wilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 30th, 2006, 05:10 PM   #4
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Pittsfield, MA
Posts: 86
Right you are Matt! (with exception of silent films - but those are intended to be without sound, save music).

My price range is around $300-$500.

I will do some searching on this site and see what I can find! Thanks guys!
William N Zarvis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 30th, 2006, 07:22 PM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Europe
Posts: 844
William

FWIW, i think the ME66 should be a good choice.
Price at B&H right now is $419 (with K6 power module which you'll need).

Or a little more within budget would be probably Rode NTG2 at $249. This is powered either by phantom 48V power or an internal 1.5V battery.

Either way, i think you'll find it helpful to read Shawn Redford's recent post:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64609

and to the dvestore review link mentioned in his post where about 8 popular shotgun mics are reviewed with sound and quicktime video:
http://dvestore.com/theatre/mics_guide.html

NTG2 and ME66 + 6 others are all at that link.

rgds
Stu Holmes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 30th, 2006, 09:41 PM   #6
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,742
If you're going to be shooting a mix of indoors and out, IMHO a hypercardioid should be the first mic you get rather than a shotgun. Two excellent choices within your budget would be either the Audio-Technica AT4053a or the AKG C300B/CK93 combination. Hypers can be used indoors and out while a shotgun is less flexible and rarely a good choice for indoors or confined, reflective spaces (like your cave).
__________________
Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!
Steve House is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 30th, 2006, 10:14 PM   #7
Major Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 508
Just to let you know, I'm not sure you are allowed to shoot in NY subways or downtown streets without some sort of permission. I knew a peer who tried doing a piece on European vs. American subway systems, and he had his tape confiscated.

You might want to look at the Sennheiser ME64 cardioid mic too, as some people have reported surprising results even outdoors, and it serves well as a balanced indoor/outdoor mic. $365 with K6 module.
Alex Thames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 30th, 2006, 10:28 PM   #8
Trustee
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,483
I've heard the CK93 and though it sounded pretty
good.
I know Jay has mentioned that his 4053 seems
a bit too bassy even with the low-cut
filter applied. I recently was looking at
the specs of the 4053 and saw that the
rolloff is not much at all: 6dB per octave
starting at 80 Hz. CK93 is a bit better:
12dB per octave at 75 Hz.
Dave Largent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 1st, 2006, 08:22 AM   #9
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Uganda
Posts: 44
sound

William, you've gotten some good advise from these guys. I have used the me66 and the Audio Technica AT4053A with good results indoors and outdoors. just an extra .02

Rand





______________________________________________________________

failure can not contend with persistence
Rand Blair is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:17 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network