Live Band on TV Chat Show at DVinfo.net

Paul Spooner · October 4th, 2006, 09:32 AM

Hi Everyone!

I am soon to step into some unknown territory when i am to mix the sound on a studio chat show with a live band. I have mixed chat shows before but never had to setup and mix a musical act. The band is rock music and has a drummer with a standard 5 piece kit with 3 cymbals, guitarist, bassist/backing vocals and guitarist/vocalist.

My question is how am i best to mic this up and what mics to use and any tips on mixing live bands in a studio. I am lucky and have access to a lot of microphones, which does include a proper drum mic set. Also any help on the placement of fold back/monitors and what each person has coming through their own monitor would be greatly appreciated.

If anyone has come across an online tutorial on this then a point in the right direction of that would be a great help.

Hope to hear from you all!

Many Thanks

Paul

Steve House · October 4th, 2006, 09:58 AM

Shure has a series of White Papers in their website knowledge base that have a lot of information about this sort of thing. A great resource!

http://shure.com/ProAudio/TechLibrar...cles/index.htm

Paul Spooner · October 5th, 2006, 08:24 AM

Thanks Steve, the information on there should help me out a lot!

Mike Cavanaugh · October 5th, 2006, 08:51 AM

The band probably has a sound guy - let him use his mixer, tweak the sound to his liking an then send a mix to you.

Sharyn Ferrick · October 5th, 2006, 04:23 PM

This will be an interesting experience for you, and the band

The point to be careful of is that the sound from the band being "correct" for the audience is totally different from the sound being "correct" for the video audience.

There have been a few solutions to all this, one was in the past, the tv show simply had the band lipsync to prerecorded music, most of the shows done in the past were all done that way.

The way to have it be effective in a live setup is pretty much along the lines of how a pro set up works, you have the mics all split so that one signal feeds to the on site pa and the other feeds to your recording mising location which really needs to be isolated from the live sound. You would add mics for the on locations sound of audience etc.

There are simple splitters that feed one side of the mic feed to the pa and the other to your mixer, make sure the two mixers are fed from the same power connection to reduce ground problems

There is a compromise where you get a feed from the mixer and combine it with some on site mics again away from the live location so that you can get a reasonable balance.

Sharyn

October 4th, 2006, 09:32 AM	#1
Paul Spooner New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5	Live Band on TV Chat Show Hi Everyone! I am soon to step into some unknown territory when i am to mix the sound on a studio chat show with a live band. I have mixed chat shows before but never had to setup and mix a musical act. The band is rock music and has a drummer with a standard 5 piece kit with 3 cymbals, guitarist, bassist/backing vocals and guitarist/vocalist. My question is how am i best to mic this up and what mics to use and any tips on mixing live bands in a studio. I am lucky and have access to a lot of microphones, which does include a proper drum mic set. Also any help on the placement of fold back/monitors and what each person has coming through their own monitor would be greatly appreciated. If anyone has come across an online tutorial on this then a point in the right direction of that would be a great help. Hope to hear from you all! Many Thanks Paul

October 4th, 2006, 09:58 AM	#2
Steve House Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,742	Shure has a series of White Papers in their website knowledge base that have a lot of information about this sort of thing. A great resource! http://shure.com/ProAudio/TechLibrar...cles/index.htm __________________ Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!

October 5th, 2006, 08:24 AM	#3
Paul Spooner New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5	Thanks Steve, the information on there should help me out a lot!

October 5th, 2006, 08:51 AM	#4
Mike Cavanaugh Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Albany NY Posts: 311	The band probably has a sound guy - let him use his mixer, tweak the sound to his liking an then send a mix to you.

October 5th, 2006, 04:23 PM	#5
Sharyn Ferrick Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sitka Alaska Posts: 128	This will be an interesting experience for you, and the band The point to be careful of is that the sound from the band being "correct" for the audience is totally different from the sound being "correct" for the video audience. There have been a few solutions to all this, one was in the past, the tv show simply had the band lipsync to prerecorded music, most of the shows done in the past were all done that way. The way to have it be effective in a live setup is pretty much along the lines of how a pro set up works, you have the mics all split so that one signal feeds to the on site pa and the other feeds to your recording mising location which really needs to be isolated from the live sound. You would add mics for the on locations sound of audience etc. There are simple splitters that feed one side of the mic feed to the pa and the other to your mixer, make sure the two mixers are fed from the same power connection to reduce ground problems There is a compromise where you get a feed from the mixer and combine it with some on site mics again away from the live location so that you can get a reasonable balance. Sharyn