Remove Music From V/o Track? at DVinfo.net

Will Aldersley · January 2nd, 2007, 10:43 AM

Am I able to remove music leaving the Voice Over intact from an imported single audio track from Prem Pro 2. I can remove voice from the music which is simple enough, one click but I really need to change the music for a voice over , and I dont have the original Voice over tapes just the master edit tape!!!!!!!!!

I'll try anything....please help!

Bill Mecca · January 2nd, 2007, 10:47 AM

Read Tim O'Brien's post here http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=82947

Will Aldersley · January 2nd, 2007, 12:01 PM

thanks Bill. I did read that after I had posted...the voice remover on Audition 2 is very good...but you see, I want the voice over to remain and the music (synth and beats) removing.....

any solutions for that?

Bill Mecca · January 2nd, 2007, 12:57 PM

Will,

I think its kind of the same thing. (can't leave the sugar once the cake is baked) LOL

I use Audition 1.5. In basic terms I think the vocal remover, as Tim said, carves out the middle of the pan, and if the voice sits there you will get most of it. don't know if the settings could be reversed, to remove what's left and right of the pan and leave the center. Many times though the drums can be pretty much in the center.

Have you reached out to your VO guy? if he's anything like me he probably still has the orignal files. Other than re-cutting the VO, I think any other solution might be sub-standard.

Bill Mecca · January 2nd, 2007, 02:48 PM

just did a quick test in 1.5 using the center channel remover, there was a preset for accapella... worked okay, but distorted the voice and there were pretty obvious remnants of the music. so it left some of the frequencies where the music lived, and took some from the voice where they crossed over.

If you're going to re edit and use the same piece of music for the bed, you might get away with it. But honestly, I wouldn't. If you want a clean voice track, I don't think it will happen.

Will Aldersley · January 2nd, 2007, 04:18 PM

Yeah I tried that function too. It's not great but I may have to go with that option. Unfortunately the V/O is several different non-professional people so I'll never get them all in to re-record. Nevermind, I'll find a way around it. I have half the raw V/O which I can re edit to the new music. I'll just have to waterdown the sugar in my cake using the Accepella function for the rest...I also noticed you can enhance the voice by 10db which may help. Thanks for taking the time to try and help. I just know the tape will turn up the day after my deadline. These things are sent to test us.

Bill Mecca · January 2nd, 2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will Aldersley

Thanks for taking the time to try and help. I just know the tape will turn up the day after my deadline. These things are sent to test us.

Not a problem it was a fun experiment. and I hear you loud and clear on the tape showing up. LOL!!

January 2nd, 2007, 10:43 AM	#1
Will Aldersley Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester CITY Posts: 31	Remove Music From V/o Track? Am I able to remove music leaving the Voice Over intact from an imported single audio track from Prem Pro 2. I can remove voice from the music which is simple enough, one click but I really need to change the music for a voice over , and I dont have the original Voice over tapes just the master edit tape!!!!!!!!! I'll try anything....please help!

January 2nd, 2007, 10:47 AM	#2
Bill Mecca Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 475	Read Tim O'Brien's post here http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=82947 __________________ Award-winning Pine Barrens Documentary! Video, Audio, Music & More

January 2nd, 2007, 12:57 PM	#4
Bill Mecca Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 475	Will, I think its kind of the same thing. (can't leave the sugar once the cake is baked) LOL I use Audition 1.5. In basic terms I think the vocal remover, as Tim said, carves out the middle of the pan, and if the voice sits there you will get most of it. don't know if the settings could be reversed, to remove what's left and right of the pan and leave the center. Many times though the drums can be pretty much in the center. Have you reached out to your VO guy? if he's anything like me he probably still has the orignal files. Other than re-cutting the VO, I think any other solution might be sub-standard. __________________ Award-winning Pine Barrens Documentary! Video, Audio, Music & More

January 2nd, 2007, 02:48 PM	#5
Bill Mecca Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 475	just did a quick test in 1.5 using the center channel remover, there was a preset for accapella... worked okay, but distorted the voice and there were pretty obvious remnants of the music. so it left some of the frequencies where the music lived, and took some from the voice where they crossed over. If you're going to re edit and use the same piece of music for the bed, you might get away with it. But honestly, I wouldn't. If you want a clean voice track, I don't think it will happen. __________________ Award-winning Pine Barrens Documentary! Video, Audio, Music & More

January 2nd, 2007, 12:01 PM	#3
Will Aldersley Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester CITY Posts: 31	thanks Bill. I did read that after I had posted...the voice remover on Audition 2 is very good...but you see, I want the voice over to remain and the music (synth and beats) removing..... any solutions for that?

January 2nd, 2007, 04:18 PM	#6
Will Aldersley Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester CITY Posts: 31	Yeah I tried that function too. It's not great but I may have to go with that option. Unfortunately the V/O is several different non-professional people so I'll never get them all in to re-record. Nevermind, I'll find a way around it. I have half the raw V/O which I can re edit to the new music. I'll just have to waterdown the sugar in my cake using the Accepella function for the rest...I also noticed you can enhance the voice by 10db which may help. Thanks for taking the time to try and help. I just know the tape will turn up the day after my deadline. These things are sent to test us.