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Old August 28th, 2007, 01:25 PM   #1
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Another CineVera Pictures scene shot with the Brevis

http://www.cineverapictures.com/clips/sleepless.html

What do you think? Not a whole lot of shallow DOF but what there is adds to the film look. But so do good-looking actresses. ;-)

Camera: JVC HD100
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Old August 28th, 2007, 08:11 PM   #2
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Very well done.
Great lighting!
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Old August 28th, 2007, 08:25 PM   #3
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Not a whole lot of shallow DOF but what there is adds to the film look.
Nearly all folks who have set themselves up with 35mm adaptors overdo it at the beginning (or forever). It's rare for a cinematographer who is shooting on 35mm to be obsessed with getting the shallowest depth of field all the time, yet this is often the case with the DV crowd. It's much more sophisticated to consider all of the factors that go into a given setup than to arbitrarily shoot wide open and long lens all of the time (and much more successful from a focus pulling perspective, too!)

It's a slow download but what I saw so far looks nice. Congrats.
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Old August 29th, 2007, 08:44 AM   #4
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I thought the Sleepless film looked great, beyond a doubt. Excellent production values with the two wrecked cars.
Which shots did you use the Brevis for?

I have to also say the demo reel was great, flowed well and captured me. Let me know the song you used for it, it is a great addition.

Lastly, the zoom shot from the city to a close up of the city street time-lapsed, how did you do that?!?

Great work.

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Old August 30th, 2007, 01:43 PM   #5
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Lastly, the zoom shot from the city to a close up of the city street time-lapsed, how did you do that?!?
He used the zoom toggle. :p
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Old August 31st, 2007, 03:37 PM   #6
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Joking or serious?
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Old August 31st, 2007, 03:43 PM   #7
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Sorry about the slow download. It's a problem we're looking into but was most likely caused by a rush on the site.

The zoom time lapse was done in Motion. It's simpler than you think really. Just some layering, keyframes and motion blur.

Yeah, we've mostly forgotten that we use the adapter, we just assume it's part of the camera package. Of course it goes without saying that we'd never want to shoot without it. ;-) It's just not something we think about that much anymore. But if you're looking for AC hell, try following a subject with a 135 at 2.8 around 6-7 feet away. Eyes or nose? ;-)
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 09:44 PM   #8
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Got the song, Sigur Ros:Sæglópur
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 05:47 PM   #9
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Just wanted to say I liked the demo and the link from this thread.

Very nice feel and production value.

One thing that keeps catching my eye though is the CA in some of the shots.

This is easy to control with stills, is there a way to deal with it in video?
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Old September 4th, 2007, 08:47 AM   #10
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One thing that keeps catching my eye though is the CA in some of the shots.

This is easy to control with stills, is there a way to deal with it in video?
Which shots do you see it on? I think that unless CA is very bad the average user (often including me) doesn't see it. You can sometimes zap it with secondary CC but it probably depends on the shot. Where is it?
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[CA] is easy to control with stills, is there a way to deal with it in video?
When I used a basic Letus adapter for my movie I exported single shots as TIFF frames and batch-processed them through the Distortion filter in Photoshop to correct the CA, barrel distortion, etc. to get a clean shot. It's a little more work but the only way I know of to deal with it in video.

CA is there even in films shot with Panavision, Arri, etc. but nobody is ever confident enough to speak up and say the big guys have an image problem. Panavision Genesis had it the worst, they still do and they still don't have it figured out. Every frame shot with the Genesis has to be manually corrected to compensate for serious CA image problems.

So this is a fight we're all fighting :)
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Exporting as a tiff sequence is a good idea, thanks for the suggestion.

I looked through the demo again and I see some CA in most of the shots of the girl by the fountain. There is a color fringe on the edge of her skin.

I also pick some up on very high contrast areas (white sheet meeting with a dark wall).

Your correct that the normal viewer might not notice this, but these cameras are so sharp and clean, that it really stands out to my eyes and degrades the image.

Sort of gives parts of the image a VHS edge fringe quality. This is a small degree, but present.

After watching other examples from the JVC camera, it seems to be a common attribute of the setup.
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I am not seeing it in the girl by the fountain - I tried a frame by frame and could not see it. Could you post a tiff with the area circles or something?
Maybe my monitor isn't picking it up or something...

I do notice it on the BLUE light in the background behind the fountain (in the demo) and in the SLEEPLESS video, through the window, you can see a little light that has some CA.
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Old September 4th, 2007, 09:22 PM   #14
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Here is what I am seeing at 00:07.

The arm of the girl sitting by the fountain closest to the water has a green edge fringe.

The other arm has an orange edge fringe.

At 2:46 the same girl's arm and face have a blue/green edge fringe.

Now this might be lighting, but it does not show up on any other part of her.

Sorry to bring things like this up, but it caught my eye in realtime, not pixel peeping.

The footage looks really nice.
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Old September 4th, 2007, 10:45 PM   #15
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You might give Digital Film Tools (now known as Dfx by Tiffen) a try. One of the plugins in the set is too fix CA.

http://www.tiffen.com/dfx_chromaticaberr_ig.html

I've own the original DFT's (both 55mm and Digital Film Lab) and I love them. I recently upgraded to the Tiffen plug, but I haven't played around with the CA filter yet.

Todd

ps. I really liked the video!
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