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Old October 2nd, 2007, 08:22 PM   #1
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Sumix 2/3" 1920x1080 CMOS

Let me be the first to present the new Sumix camera:

http://www.sumix.com/products/camera...a2m/index.html

2/3" 1920x1080 progresive CMOS capturing at 60fps and sending the stream to the computer via GigE with optional hardware lossless compression.

I can't breathe...

Wait... For the best is yet to come.

It costs $2500 with a special price for pro filmmakers: $2000 limited to one camera.

Images and clips soon. They start shipping on end October.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:22 PM   #2
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I think they mentioned in Wayne's technical thread that they will be releasing a new version using the P4562-3T sensor in a few months... do you have any new info about this?

The P4562-3T is a 2k chip whereas the current version will only be 1920, do you think it would be worth waiting for the extra resolution?

I too have been waiting for someone to release either an Altasens or Kodak based head in the $2000 range. Hearing the price range for the Sumix is indeed exciting news. Jose, since it is a 2/3" sensor, are you still planning on using a 35mm adapter?

Any word from Sumix on recording software?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 05:01 AM   #3
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This latest Sumix news is very promising.

"I think they mentioned it in Wayne's technical thread" -- yep, see the current last page (I was wondered what Jose thought about this camera). Finally the digital revolution is going our way...
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 05:17 AM   #4
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I didn't know about the 2K sensor. I'll ask them.

Of course it'll be worth to wait for the extra resolution as long as you need it. I mean, if you need to shoot something soon, 1080p is just about 6% less resolution than 2K. IMHO that's enough for most projects and even if your film is getting to theaters, fullHD can hold it without any major visual problem.

As for me, I'll probably buy this one and the 2K version too, because that way I'll have two Altasens 2/3" cameras for less than a Silicon Imaging 2kMini. Of course I won't have Cineform, but these Sumix cameras include hardware lossless compression, that's something to think about.

2/3" is a good size. It's right in the line between something that needs an adaptor and something that starts offering a pretty decent DOF. I've seen some Silicon Imaging DOF tests and I don't think it's worth adding an adaptor, just because of the loss of light and sharpness. You can always buy a tele lens if you need more DOF.

I'll ask for more details on the recording software too.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 05:27 AM   #5
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By the way, I hadn't read the technical discussion thread, so I didn't know you actually knew about this cam.

Sorry to claim I was the first to talk about it.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 07:19 AM   #6
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I'm thinking about the lenses too... I've got 3 very good FD mount primes and 6 EF zooms. All from Canon and all quite sharp and fast.

I know with a 2/3" sensor they'll all look a bit telephoto but even Silicon Imaging says their cameras can be used with those lenses (and even PL mount ones).

So what do you think? Is there some kind of c-mount to EF-mount adaptor? Is it worth it? Should I buy a good c-mount zoom and forget about larger ones?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 07:55 AM   #7
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 10:11 AM   #8
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I guess it means "everyone who's using the camera with filmmaking purposes". I supose companies requiring machine vision devices will say so and, very important, will want more than one.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 12:39 PM   #9
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The rolling shutter isn't a problem?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 01:58 PM   #10
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Is it a problem in the Silicon Imaging cam?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 04:27 PM   #11
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I think the SI2K overcomes rolling shutter effects by shooting at twice the speed and dropping every other frame. Since the Sumix handles 60fps, I would expect it is capable of a similar solution, although custom software might be necessary.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 05:18 PM   #12
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Ok! But: http://www.sumix.com/img/screens/m73_2large.png
It's still bad. IN SUMIX WE TRUST:)
I am sorry for my English.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 06:10 PM   #13
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Mmm... You know that's from a totally different camera, don't you?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 08:13 PM   #14
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Excuse me, HV20 is only $960:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=104431
I will purchase "SUMIX" the first, if ...
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 10:41 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Svyatoslav Pylypchuk View Post
Excuse me, HV20 is only $960:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=104431
I will purchase "SUMIX" the first, if ...
Sumix camera does 60fps and the sensor size is 2/3" (dynamic range is also better than hv20)
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