Letus Extreme and Sony EX1 test short at DVinfo.net

Phil Bloom · November 30th, 2007, 07:10 AM

You can read about my experiences on my blog here and the absolute disaster that happened after I finished the shoot followed by the incredible customer service from Hien.

http://web.mac.com/philip.bloom/Phil...Blog/Blog.html

Click on "EX1 and Letus Extreme" to see the short.

One click thing, I didn't zoom in enough a few times on the GG, any slight vignettes are either because of that, or done in grading. Nothing to do with the issue some owners are having with their EX1.

Three first shots are clean, without the Letus, as I was planning to do lots of clean tests too, but the more I used the Letus the more I couldn't take it off!

Update: Just noticed a flash frame. How crap is that? Will fix it and re-upload it!

Noah Yuan-Vogel · December 3rd, 2007, 10:32 PM

Looks good. whats with the edge softness? looks like things get extremely soft toward both the left and right edges of the frame on all of the letus shots. is it always like that? i imagine ive seen letus extreme shots without that issue, so perhaps the ground glass was just not flat or calibrated correctly? its even on the wide shots where everything else is in focus. also, how did you do those shots where only the subject's eyes are in focus? almost looks like a lens tilt effect or something.

Phil Bloom · December 14th, 2007, 06:10 PM

http://www.philipbloom.co.uk/Philip_...14_Blog_5.html

new short using the ex1 and letus extreme now online as part of my blog. Enjoy

Peter Wiley · December 16th, 2007, 02:43 PM

Lovely. What was the music?

Phil Bloom · December 16th, 2007, 06:00 PM

Thanks Peter. King Kong by James Newton Howard.

Sebastien Thomas · December 22nd, 2007, 10:21 AM

Phil,

could you tell us how you achieve a so good looking "slow shutter mode" ?
I had a try last night, and it was way less smooth than your.
What recording frame rate ? what slow shutter setting ?

Thanks for all your work and sharing.

Phil Bloom · December 22nd, 2007, 10:55 AM

Hi Sebastian

On which short do you mean, Kew or Piccadiily?

All the ice skating is 60fps, the other slow mo stuff is shot normal speed then slowed down with twixtor pro FCP plug in.

Do you mean slow shutter or overcrank?

If you mean slow shutter for stuff like timelapse I struggle to get a really sharp image, can't work out why. The F350 is pin sharp using slow shutter but the EX1 is much softer. No obvious reason I can think of...

Sebastien Thomas · December 23rd, 2007, 06:51 AM

In Piccadilly, the accelerated shoot with car traffic. it is the second sequence, but there is another near the end.
Is it slow shutter mode ? what is the shutter speed ? frame speed ?
Or you did this afterward in FinalCut ?

I tried the "slow shutter" mode of the EX1, and whatedever you set it, 16, 32 or 64 accumulated frames, it is not smooth and I can't understand how to use it.
I got better results with a slow shutter set to 8, but 8 is a little bit too low...

Once again you got beautifull pictures. Great job. I hope to get something similar to you at the Pere Lachaise cemetry in Paris soon :)

Phil Bloom · December 23rd, 2007, 07:29 AM

Ah

Yes. When using slow shutter on interval make sure the interval is at least 1 frame every 2 seconds. If you do it every 1 second you get the jerky effect.

Sebastien Thomas · December 23rd, 2007, 11:38 AM

I'm sorry, I don't understand your setting. The slow shutter mode can only be set to 16, 32 or 64 accumulated frames.

I'm shooting 1080i 25p. What should be the setting ?
I'll have to play more with it.

Phil Bloom · December 23rd, 2007, 11:59 AM

are you filming on interval recording whilst using slow shutter or not?

Sebastien Thomas · December 23rd, 2007, 12:19 PM

no, i just set the slow shutter on. That may be the solution. I'll try it soon. Thanks for the tip.

Phil Bloom · December 23rd, 2007, 12:21 PM

yes. slow shutter without interval recording will be unusable. Make sure it is set to 1 frame every 2 seconds or more. not 1 frame every 1 second as that will still be jerky on 32 and 64

Phil Bloom · December 23rd, 2007, 05:55 PM

Ok. Done a new short to test out my shift/ tilt lenses. 80% was done using the 65mm and 85mm Hartblei lenses. Go to my blog at www.philipbloom.co.uk and read all about it and see the film.

I thoroughly recommend these lenses. Obviously in the future I won't use them for every shot. This was after all a test, and a very succesful one it was too!

Enjoy!

Tomorrow I get my Brevis Flip. Let's see how well it works in comparison!

S. Abdul Jamal · December 24th, 2007, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

Ok. Done a new short to test out my shift/ tilt lenses. 80% was done using the 65mm and 85mm Hartblei lenses. Go to my blog at www.philipbloom.co.uk and read all about it and see the film.

I thoroughly recommend these lenses. Obviously in the future I won't use them for every shot. This was after all a test, and a very succesful one it was too!

Enjoy!

Tomorrow I get my Brevis Flip. Let's see how well it works in comparison!

i love checking your work like always top nocth .

November 30th, 2007, 07:10 AM	#1
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Letus Extreme and Sony EX1 test short You can read about my experiences on my blog here and the absolute disaster that happened after I finished the shoot followed by the incredible customer service from Hien. http://web.mac.com/philip.bloom/Phil...Blog/Blog.html Click on "EX1 and Letus Extreme" to see the short. One click thing, I didn't zoom in enough a few times on the GG, any slight vignettes are either because of that, or done in grading. Nothing to do with the issue some owners are having with their EX1. Three first shots are clean, without the Letus, as I was planning to do lots of clean tests too, but the more I used the Letus the more I couldn't take it off! Update: Just noticed a flash frame. How crap is that? Will fix it and re-upload it! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 14th, 2007, 06:10 PM	#3
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	http://www.philipbloom.co.uk/Philip_...14_Blog_5.html new short using the ex1 and letus extreme now online as part of my blog. Enjoy __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 16th, 2007, 06:00 PM	#5
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Thanks Peter. King Kong by James Newton Howard. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 22nd, 2007, 10:55 AM	#7
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Hi Sebastian On which short do you mean, Kew or Piccadiily? All the ice skating is 60fps, the other slow mo stuff is shot normal speed then slowed down with twixtor pro FCP plug in. Do you mean slow shutter or overcrank? If you mean slow shutter for stuff like timelapse I struggle to get a really sharp image, can't work out why. The F350 is pin sharp using slow shutter but the EX1 is much softer. No obvious reason I can think of... __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 23rd, 2007, 07:29 AM	#9
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Ah Yes. When using slow shutter on interval make sure the interval is at least 1 frame every 2 seconds. If you do it every 1 second you get the jerky effect. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 3rd, 2007, 10:32 PM	#2
Noah Yuan-Vogel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 613	Looks good. whats with the edge softness? looks like things get extremely soft toward both the left and right edges of the frame on all of the letus shots. is it always like that? i imagine ive seen letus extreme shots without that issue, so perhaps the ground glass was just not flat or calibrated correctly? its even on the wide shots where everything else is in focus. also, how did you do those shots where only the subject's eyes are in focus? almost looks like a lens tilt effect or something.

December 16th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#4
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	Lovely. What was the music?

December 22nd, 2007, 10:21 AM	#6
Sebastien Thomas Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 210	Phil, could you tell us how you achieve a so good looking "slow shutter mode" ? I had a try last night, and it was way less smooth than your. What recording frame rate ? what slow shutter setting ? Thanks for all your work and sharing.

December 23rd, 2007, 06:51 AM	#8
Sebastien Thomas Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 210	In Piccadilly, the accelerated shoot with car traffic. it is the second sequence, but there is another near the end. Is it slow shutter mode ? what is the shutter speed ? frame speed ? Or you did this afterward in FinalCut ? I tried the "slow shutter" mode of the EX1, and whatedever you set it, 16, 32 or 64 accumulated frames, it is not smooth and I can't understand how to use it. I got better results with a slow shutter set to 8, but 8 is a little bit too low... Once again you got beautifull pictures. Great job. I hope to get something similar to you at the Pere Lachaise cemetry in Paris soon :)

December 23rd, 2007, 11:38 AM	#10
Sebastien Thomas Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 210	I'm sorry, I don't understand your setting. The slow shutter mode can only be set to 16, 32 or 64 accumulated frames. I'm shooting 1080i 25p. What should be the setting ? I'll have to play more with it.

December 23rd, 2007, 11:59 AM	#11
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	are you filming on interval recording whilst using slow shutter or not? __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 23rd, 2007, 12:19 PM	#12
Sebastien Thomas Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 210	no, i just set the slow shutter on. That may be the solution. I'll try it soon. Thanks for the tip.

December 23rd, 2007, 12:21 PM	#13
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	yes. slow shutter without interval recording will be unusable. Make sure it is set to 1 frame every 2 seconds or more. not 1 frame every 1 second as that will still be jerky on 32 and 64 __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 23rd, 2007, 05:55 PM	#14
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Ok. Done a new short to test out my shift/ tilt lenses. 80% was done using the 65mm and 85mm Hartblei lenses. Go to my blog at www.philipbloom.co.uk and read all about it and see the film. I thoroughly recommend these lenses. Obviously in the future I won't use them for every shot. This was after all a test, and a very succesful one it was too! Enjoy! Tomorrow I get my Brevis Flip. Let's see how well it works in comparison! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net