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Old May 14th, 2004, 06:58 AM   #16
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kinetta

hi everyone this a link to the chip used in the kinetta.
http://www.altasens.com/technology.html
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Old May 14th, 2004, 12:19 PM   #17
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Thanks Richard.
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Old May 15th, 2004, 01:05 AM   #18
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4.5K HD Camera.

http://www.geocities.com/indiecinema...D_Systems.html

Fits in camera body.
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Old May 15th, 2004, 12:33 PM   #19
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Concept HD looks good, but 'Where's the beef? ' --- i.e.: I don't have much confidence in a company that posts no sample clips, or even stills.
The camera does not exist, I assume.
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Old May 16th, 2004, 05:00 PM   #20
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what about a contact email address?? I mean c'mon who is doing that thing anyway?
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Old May 18th, 2004, 11:28 AM   #21
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Re-editing:

Have finally got around to reading the Concept HD site. Strange, no contact details, geocities site. But he has turned up at camcorderinfo:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/sho...2188#post72188

I don't know if this is finsihed or is preliminary information to see what interest there is.

On our local forum:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=25296

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=25808
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Old May 18th, 2004, 05:22 PM   #22
 
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Say everyone,

Somebody tell me the goods/bads possible prices about using something like this.

http://www.fast-vision.com/cameras/camera13.HTM#


Thanks!!!!!
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Old May 18th, 2004, 05:53 PM   #23
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wow looks like you found the ONLY company in the world using the NEW Micron global shutter chip!!! guess I better contact them asap as I think that chip kicks ass!
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Old May 19th, 2004, 03:01 AM   #24
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Well. I'm not going to get into researching the fast vision camera yet, but this is not the only fast camera I have spotted. The problem is that there are just too many options out there to choose from (and research). Maybe people need to work out the backend first, in such a way that any of these cmos modules canbe attached, and a new profile loaded to controll image acquistions? Still people to choose among the cheapest and best sensors is still needed. People in threads mentioned above might like to look into it. I just run out of time.

Note it is saying 4M pixel, is that actual sensor pixels to produce the lower res frame (would be good)?

Here is the Nab 2004, high speed camera, winner:

http://www.visiblesolutions.com/phantomv9.html

Good pictures of speeding bullet, crashes etc on the site:

http://www.visiblesolutions.com/

Fillfatory, that does the sensor for it, and for Sumix, has just released 35mm sensors:

http://www.fillfactory.com/htm/news/news.htm (SHD resolution, but 3fps)
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Old May 19th, 2004, 07:06 AM   #25
 
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Hey, this may sound really lame, but I was just looking at the tech specs of Final Cut Pro HD, and they make it sound like you don't need any super expensive capture card to edit in HD. Supposedly you can capture 90-160 Mbps 4:2:2 1080p at 10 bit via a normal Mac system with PCI interface (they call it uncompressed, but...).

http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/

Is this legit? B&H sells turnkey systems for under 5k (Although not PCI I think, so have to work that out). I know you'd be losing some quality because of the 160 Mbps cap, but maybe it would be good enough for a big screen? Maybe a viable form of acquisition with a 1080 24p chip camera connected via PCI? I assume you'd need to integrate some camera software somehow. But you'd have your NLE to boot. Somebody chime in here, tell me where I'm going wrong.
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Old May 19th, 2004, 08:18 AM   #26
 
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Also, what about this new Prospect HD from CineForm? 1920 X 1080 HD up to 30p and I think only software based? Although it may only come with Boxx Technologies which may be expensive, and I think it's SDI. But give me your input . . . I'm drowning in the Tech world . . . DROWNING AAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!

http://www.cineform.com/products/ProspectHD.htm
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Old May 19th, 2004, 08:19 AM   #27
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FYI fillfactory 1.3mp chips stink, really bad color...I have seen test images and we would not want to shoot what that chip makes for images
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Old May 19th, 2004, 08:21 AM   #28
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more info, that Micron "kickass" chip is good BUT it has a HUGE datarate and that is why almost no one is using it in a camera design...the guys I bought the HD cam from can make a camera from that chip but only in bulk numbers
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Old May 19th, 2004, 10:09 AM   #29
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I thought the colour issue was resolved from the other thread as some form of mistake (plus when I first saw the grey scale mobile phone picture I mistook it for a poor color picture of a grey mobile phone). Is this correct or is there a color problem?

That Micron chip datarate, is it possible to reduce it for a smaller picture format?

Well whatever they choose, as long as it resolves these issues (different fillfactory sensors/colour filter/prism cobinations are going to give different performance in these areas).

I had a quick look at the prospect HD website, expensive, but if you want to pay that price probably well worth it. On top of that you will need an expensive HD-SDI card to capture, probably meant for integration with existing SOny/Pana PRO HD setups. Didn't get down to the specific capture requirements, wherever there is another card for component.

As I understand it they are using a near lossless compression codec. I support this, but If I'm going to go direct to disk I would prefer genuine, lossless compression, as I want to run some particular software filters on all good footage. The system Silicon Imaging near looseless codec (or is that losless), and different camera link technologies maybe worth a look at:

http://www.siliconimaging.com/SPIHT.htm#Lossless

http://www.siliconimaging.com/SI%20Main3.html

Went over to sourceforge.com and printed many pages of search results for camera stuff. I remember noticing something about a video editor in that list, maybe somebody is working o a good HD editor for free.
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Old May 19th, 2004, 10:33 AM   #30
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color on the fillfactory chips suck as far as I can tel. Color on the Micron is very good, that is the chip i bought and am waiting for
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