is this $1,545.00 Sony camera HD capable? XCDX710CR at DVinfo.net

John Gaspain · September 7th, 2004, 06:11 PM

I was dorking around on Sonys industrial website, I came across this promising cam. Sure it needs Glass but this cam looks like a 30p HD 8-10bit uncompressed(?) output to firewire cam!!!! and for a retail price of $1,545.00...oh yea you might be able to get some serious DOF without the need for an agus35. Just slap a 35mm c-mount on there. Am I dreaming?

sony link
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professiona...20054&id=73500

retail link
http://www.goelectronic.com/Merchant...DUSTRIAL+VIDEO

Sony's new XCD-X710CR progressive scan, IEEE 1394 camera is the latest addition to join Sony's growing line up of digital, high-speed cameras. This new digital camera satisfies the demand for high speed, color, progressive scan cameras and are ideally suited for those customers who need (a) a progressive scan camera that can achieve 30 frames/sec in color; (b) high resolution of 1024 x 768 in an industrial housing; and, (c) access to the raw pixel values so customers can do their own color processing. The "CR" in its model number stands for "Color Raw". This new "CR" model uses a CCD with a color mask (commonly called a "Bayer filter") and output the "raw color" pixel values in 8 or 10 bit to be converted to a color image on the computer. The color conversion that takes place in the computer is supported by Sony's new IEEE 1394 software and most 3rd party Firewire® compatible software (e.g., Matrox, National Instruments and Unibrain).

High frame rate and high rate scanning

Separate gain for red, green and blue pixels to maximize the color S/N ratio

Color conversion process handled by a computer (not by the camera)

Multiple Cameras can be synchronized at full frame rate with trigger and will self-synchronize to the common Firewire compatible bus clock

Fast software trigger

Allows for multiple cameras on a single bus in 8-bit mode (less bandwidth per camera)

Binning 1 x 2 and 2 x 2 for high frame rates and high sensitivity in monochrome

High shock and vibration resistance

Feature
Benefit

High Frame Rate & High Rate Scanning

30 frames/second at up to 1024 x 768 in 8-bit mode

Raw Pixel Values
The XCD-X710CR camera outputs the raw pixel values as Mono-8 (8-bits per pixel) in 8-bit mode or Mono-16 (16 bits per pixel) in 10-bit mode. The low level driver or your application can then convert the raw image to color using common Bayer conversion routines.

Color Processing Outside the Camera
In some instances it is preferable that the color processing occur outside the camera. By doing so, this enables special processing to the image prior to color conversion and gives you the ability to use your specialized color conversion routines. The XCD-X710CR camera digitizes only the full lines of a partial scan area so the frame rate can increase in partial scan mode.

Specification
Detail

Image Device
1/3 type Progressive Scan CCD

Picture Elements
1034 (H) x 779 (V)

Image Size
XGA: 1024 (H) x 768 (V)

Lens Mount
C Mount

Minimum Illumination
4 lx (F0.95 lens open, +18 dB Gain)

Digital Interface
IEEE 1394-1995

Transfer Rate
400/200 Mbps

Frame Rate
30 / 15 / 7.5 / 3.75 / 1.875 fps

Gain Control
Auto/Manual (0 to 18 dB, 0.035 dB steps)

External Shutter
1/100,000 to 17.5 s

External Trigger Shutter
Trigger start (mode 0), trigger start and exposure duration (mode 1)

Partial Scan
256 zones (16 x 16)

Power Requirements
DC 8 to 30 V (from IEEE 1394 camera cable)

Power Consumption
4.5W

Dimensions
44 (W) x 33 (H) x 116 (D)mm / 1-3/4 x 1-15/16 x 4-5/8 inches)/16 x 4-5/8 inches)

Ignacio Rodriguez · September 8th, 2004, 10:43 AM

Awesome, but custom software must be written. Also, it seems to be 1/3" , where will you get that extra differential focus from? It is still a small sensor or did I misread?

John Gaspain · September 8th, 2004, 12:31 PM

it comes with the software!

Anders Holck Petersen · September 8th, 2004, 05:13 PM

Well the bad news:

- Imager size: only 1/3 inch. If you want to use 35 mm optics you have to multiply the focal lenght by about 7. a 28mm becomes a 196mm tele

- Resolution: 800.000 pixels with bayer filter arrey. This isn't even 1mpix.

- The sensitivity: The color model has a minimum illumination of 20 lux at MAX. gain (+18 db)

- The bitdepth: Only 8-bits available at 1024x768 - 30 fps.

September 7th, 2004, 06:11 PM	#1
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	is this $1,545.00 Sony camera HD capable? XCDX710CR I was dorking around on Sonys industrial website, I came across this promising cam. Sure it needs Glass but this cam looks like a 30p HD 8-10bit uncompressed(?) output to firewire cam!!!! and for a retail price of $1,545.00...oh yea you might be able to get some serious DOF without the need for an agus35. Just slap a 35mm c-mount on there. Am I dreaming? sony link http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professiona...20054&id=73500 retail link http://www.goelectronic.com/Merchant...DUSTRIAL+VIDEO Sony's new XCD-X710CR progressive scan, IEEE 1394 camera is the latest addition to join Sony's growing line up of digital, high-speed cameras. This new digital camera satisfies the demand for high speed, color, progressive scan cameras and are ideally suited for those customers who need (a) a progressive scan camera that can achieve 30 frames/sec in color; (b) high resolution of 1024 x 768 in an industrial housing; and, (c) access to the raw pixel values so customers can do their own color processing. The "CR" in its model number stands for "Color Raw". This new "CR" model uses a CCD with a color mask (commonly called a "Bayer filter") and output the "raw color" pixel values in 8 or 10 bit to be converted to a color image on the computer. The color conversion that takes place in the computer is supported by Sony's new IEEE 1394 software and most 3rd party Firewire® compatible software (e.g., Matrox, National Instruments and Unibrain). High frame rate and high rate scanning Separate gain for red, green and blue pixels to maximize the color S/N ratio Color conversion process handled by a computer (not by the camera) Multiple Cameras can be synchronized at full frame rate with trigger and will self-synchronize to the common Firewire compatible bus clock Fast software trigger Allows for multiple cameras on a single bus in 8-bit mode (less bandwidth per camera) Binning 1 x 2 and 2 x 2 for high frame rates and high sensitivity in monochrome High shock and vibration resistance Feature Benefit High Frame Rate & High Rate Scanning 30 frames/second at up to 1024 x 768 in 8-bit mode Raw Pixel Values The XCD-X710CR camera outputs the raw pixel values as Mono-8 (8-bits per pixel) in 8-bit mode or Mono-16 (16 bits per pixel) in 10-bit mode. The low level driver or your application can then convert the raw image to color using common Bayer conversion routines. Color Processing Outside the Camera In some instances it is preferable that the color processing occur outside the camera. By doing so, this enables special processing to the image prior to color conversion and gives you the ability to use your specialized color conversion routines. The XCD-X710CR camera digitizes only the full lines of a partial scan area so the frame rate can increase in partial scan mode. Specification Detail Image Device 1/3 type Progressive Scan CCD Picture Elements 1034 (H) x 779 (V) Image Size XGA: 1024 (H) x 768 (V) Lens Mount C Mount Minimum Illumination 4 lx (F0.95 lens open, +18 dB Gain) Digital Interface IEEE 1394-1995 Transfer Rate 400/200 Mbps Frame Rate 30 / 15 / 7.5 / 3.75 / 1.875 fps Gain Control Auto/Manual (0 to 18 dB, 0.035 dB steps) External Shutter 1/100,000 to 17.5 s External Trigger Shutter Trigger start (mode 0), trigger start and exposure duration (mode 1) Partial Scan 256 zones (16 x 16) Power Requirements DC 8 to 30 V (from IEEE 1394 camera cable) Power Consumption 4.5W Dimensions 44 (W) x 33 (H) x 116 (D)mm / 1-3/4 x 1-15/16 x 4-5/8 inches)/16 x 4-5/8 inches) __________________ The glory of the World passes by.

September 8th, 2004, 10:43 AM	#2
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	Awesome, but custom software must be written. Also, it seems to be 1/3" , where will you get that extra differential focus from? It is still a small sensor or did I misread? __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

September 8th, 2004, 12:31 PM	#3
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	it comes with the software! __________________ The glory of the World passes by.

September 8th, 2004, 05:13 PM	#4
Anders Holck Petersen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 59	Well the bad news: - Imager size: only 1/3 inch. If you want to use 35 mm optics you have to multiply the focal lenght by about 7. a 28mm becomes a 196mm tele - Resolution: 800.000 pixels with bayer filter arrey. This isn't even 1mpix. - The sensitivity: The color model has a minimum illumination of 20 lux at MAX. gain (+18 db) - The bitdepth: Only 8-bits available at 1024x768 - 30 fps.