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Kyle Cutshaw · January 11th, 2005, 05:03 PM

Has anyone gotten in touch with Jaun over at reel-stream.com? and What kind of results are the Aurora producing.

Steven Fokkinga · January 11th, 2005, 05:33 PM

Yes, it seems to be out for some time now. Also, I wasn't able to respond to the Juan's "uncompressed dvx100 4:4:4" from this forum anymore... Does any wrangler know what's going on?

Steven

Kyle Cutshaw · January 12th, 2005, 04:13 AM

The question that I have about the Aurora is the price of course. This will be "the condition" that could possibly make or break the item. Will it be priced in a range that'll entice most middle end buyers( those who may, more or less, have a grand to play around with ) or will it be only for the high end users that have several grand to throw around. This question needs to be addressed I believe. On the subject of things being addressed, what kind of results are we expecting from this device. The website gives some, although be it vague, details on the capabilities of this machine, but its not enough. And yes I realize that Juan and Jeremy are busy getting their product ready for NAB and for production, but they must realize that some of their potential clients are also waiting patiently for more info. We're in the dark here guys.

Now with that said, I believe the work that these gentlmen are doing is phenomenol. Its guys like these that'll make video the medium of choice to shoot movies, shorts, music vids, etc. Its these guys that'll help video eventually conquer film.

Kyle Cutshaw · January 14th, 2005, 04:34 PM

The forums over at reel-stream.com are up again. For those who dont know, this company claims that they can capture the information off the dvx-100a (maybe other cams later on) before it becomes compressed. they are claiming they are getting 12 bit color and a 720p resolution out of the camcorder. A price for the device hasnt been disclosed yet

Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn · January 14th, 2005, 07:30 PM

Well, in fact all they claim is in fact true.
We all followed Juan Pertierra's development in this forum and we perfectly know what he claims is true

Matt Champagne · January 14th, 2005, 07:45 PM

I hope the method of modding...or rather the method of camera companies in creating their ccd's is simular enough to lend the process to ease of adapation to other cameras. I really wonder if they can get some decent uncompressed off of cheaper consumer cams (things I'd be less afraid to void the warrenty on). I'd really be interested in seeing what you can get off the optura's ccd. I've already seen people use direct to disk capture while in photo mode to grab progressive footage off of optura ccds...so the ccd can definatly shoot progressive....I'd be interested in knowing if the uncompressed mod could get something good out of it...particularly in the realm of the 12 bit color.

Chris Hurd · January 14th, 2005, 10:31 PM

Are y'all really having trouble with the original thread here?

Wayne Morellini · January 15th, 2005, 03:22 AM

Well the problem is they need pixel shift to get hi-resolution, and even cameras that have it do it differently depending on camera.

The new GS65 has 420K pixels across 3 ccd's (that's 140K pixels per CCD) claiming 1.2-1.3Mpixel for stills. I am not sure what mechanism it uses to get it's max resolution, but if you have all CCD's shiften diagonly from each other would give 140K*9=1.2-1.3Mp. Sure would be a great little doco camera with the reel-stream and Aldur adaptor. I would like to know how big those pixels are, they should be as big as a DVX100's pixel, so simular latitude, and maybe sensitivity.

I am interested if any of he camera companies do a raw 3 chip 1080 camera head with all chips shifted (18M pixel) great for any cinema.

Wayne.

Régine Weinberg · January 15th, 2005, 05:08 PM

that wood be poor mans dream set , by the way anyonone doing this, ill jump on

Filip Kovcin · January 16th, 2005, 10:01 AM

i think this must be connected with the "old" - juan's thread. there is no sense of making new sub-threads about the same thing.

any wrangler around? please - move this to juan's thread. will be much easier to follow!!!!

thank you,

filip

Chris Hurd · January 16th, 2005, 11:37 AM

Actually Flip, I was thinking about breaking that original thread into a bunch of smaller ones to make them easier to digest. But if you guys don't think that's a good idea, then I won't do it.

Filip Kovcin · January 16th, 2005, 12:51 PM

Chris,

i wrote of course just my opinion. i'm not guru here, but i noticed that if i'm looking for something and it's separated in two or more similar threads - i'm confused - i can't remember where it was when i saw it.
of course we can use search engine, but i personally think, that if something is very close to certain thread- live/push it there...

but, if majority wants different way - no problem with me. just think that this way is more "compact" (regardless of tons of pages - but it's in ONE place, and you know it where to go).

just a thought

filip

p.s. and this is my last OT issue in this thread!

January 11th, 2005, 05:03 PM	#1
Kyle Cutshaw New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: seymour, tennessee Posts: 21	reel-stream Has anyone gotten in touch with Jaun over at reel-stream.com? and What kind of results are the Aurora producing. __________________ "Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unreqited love." -Charlie Brown

January 12th, 2005, 04:13 AM	#3
Kyle Cutshaw New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: seymour, tennessee Posts: 21	The question that I have about the Aurora is the price of course. This will be "the condition" that could possibly make or break the item. Will it be priced in a range that'll entice most middle end buyers( those who may, more or less, have a grand to play around with ) or will it be only for the high end users that have several grand to throw around. This question needs to be addressed I believe. On the subject of things being addressed, what kind of results are we expecting from this device. The website gives some, although be it vague, details on the capabilities of this machine, but its not enough. And yes I realize that Juan and Jeremy are busy getting their product ready for NAB and for production, but they must realize that some of their potential clients are also waiting patiently for more info. We're in the dark here guys. Now with that said, I believe the work that these gentlmen are doing is phenomenol. Its guys like these that'll make video the medium of choice to shoot movies, shorts, music vids, etc. Its these guys that'll help video eventually conquer film. __________________ "Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unreqited love." -Charlie Brown

January 14th, 2005, 04:34 PM	#4
Kyle Cutshaw New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: seymour, tennessee Posts: 21	Good news The forums over at reel-stream.com are up again. For those who dont know, this company claims that they can capture the information off the dvx-100a (maybe other cams later on) before it becomes compressed. they are claiming they are getting 12 bit color and a 720p resolution out of the camcorder. A price for the device hasnt been disclosed yet __________________ "Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unreqited love." -Charlie Brown

January 14th, 2005, 10:31 PM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Are y'all really having trouble with the original thread here? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 16th, 2005, 10:01 AM	#10
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	move this to juan's thread - please! i think this must be connected with the "old" - juan's thread. there is no sense of making new sub-threads about the same thing. any wrangler around? please - move this to juan's thread. will be much easier to follow!!!! thank you, filip

January 11th, 2005, 05:33 PM	#2
Steven Fokkinga Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	Yes, it seems to be out for some time now. Also, I wasn't able to respond to the Juan's "uncompressed dvx100 4:4:4" from this forum anymore... Does any wrangler know what's going on? Steven

January 14th, 2005, 07:30 PM	#5
Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Buenos Aires , Argentina Posts: 444	Well, in fact all they claim is in fact true. We all followed Juan Pertierra's development in this forum and we perfectly know what he claims is true

January 14th, 2005, 07:45 PM	#6
Matt Champagne Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Iberia, LA Posts: 229	I hope the method of modding...or rather the method of camera companies in creating their ccd's is simular enough to lend the process to ease of adapation to other cameras. I really wonder if they can get some decent uncompressed off of cheaper consumer cams (things I'd be less afraid to void the warrenty on). I'd really be interested in seeing what you can get off the optura's ccd. I've already seen people use direct to disk capture while in photo mode to grab progressive footage off of optura ccds...so the ccd can definatly shoot progressive....I'd be interested in knowing if the uncompressed mod could get something good out of it...particularly in the realm of the 12 bit color.

January 15th, 2005, 03:22 AM	#8
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Well the problem is they need pixel shift to get hi-resolution, and even cameras that have it do it differently depending on camera. The new GS65 has 420K pixels across 3 ccd's (that's 140K pixels per CCD) claiming 1.2-1.3Mpixel for stills. I am not sure what mechanism it uses to get it's max resolution, but if you have all CCD's shiften diagonly from each other would give 140K*9=1.2-1.3Mp. Sure would be a great little doco camera with the reel-stream and Aldur adaptor. I would like to know how big those pixels are, they should be as big as a DVX100's pixel, so simular latitude, and maybe sensitivity. I am interested if any of he camera companies do a raw 3 chip 1080 camera head with all chips shifted (18M pixel) great for any cinema. Wayne.

January 15th, 2005, 05:08 PM	#9
Régine Weinberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bordeaux, going to Bangkok, 2011 Posts: 232	that wood be poor mans dream set , by the way anyonone doing this, ill jump on

January 16th, 2005, 11:37 AM	#11
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Actually Flip, I was thinking about breaking that original thread into a bunch of smaller ones to make them easier to digest. But if you guys don't think that's a good idea, then I won't do it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 16th, 2005, 12:51 PM	#12
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	Chris, i wrote of course just my opinion. i'm not guru here, but i noticed that if i'm looking for something and it's separated in two or more similar threads - i'm confused - i can't remember where it was when i saw it. of course we can use search engine, but i personally think, that if something is very close to certain thread- live/push it there... but, if majority wants different way - no problem with me. just think that this way is more "compact" (regardless of tons of pages - but it's in ONE place, and you know it where to go). just a thought filip p.s. and this is my last OT issue in this thread!