Micro35 (original thread)

Obin Olson · February 11th, 2005, 11:29 PM

so a firewire monitor that can record the image on a drive? and show it the right side up?

Joshua Starnes · February 11th, 2005, 11:30 PM

If the price points about the same or less than DV Rack, sure.

What made you decide to go that route.

And have you had any luck with an XL-1 solution?

James Hurd · February 11th, 2005, 11:40 PM

I haven't got my hands on an XL1 yet.

I've had the video code for a while, I've just never had a reason to finish it after DVRack came out. Now, I've wanted to have the framing capabilities and the video rotate feature and no one has it. Yet.

The price would be a fraction of the cost of DVRack. Maybe $50 or something like that.

I dug it out tonight and played around with it some. I did a couple of frame templates. It looks pretty good.

If any of you guys are interested, I see that it gets finished...

j

John Sandel · February 12th, 2005, 12:10 AM

I'm interested.

Would this putative miracle be a Windows program? If so, what would the minimum hardware requirements be?

Details, James---details!

James Hurd · February 12th, 2005, 12:19 AM

Windows. If you can capture video from your camera, it will work on your computer.

EDIT:
If you're interested, please email me. I don't won't to go too off topic here.

Obin Olson · February 12th, 2005, 12:23 AM

having a ""computer" while shooting would be a pain in the butt..what we need is a MICRO ATX or ITX computer system with an LCD on the front so it's an lcdscreen/computer all in one that can be mounted on the dvx100 micro35 system

I for one don't want a laptop dragging around with me while I shoot...

oh and BTW justt ad a FAST USB 2 port and harddrive and the reel-stream system and you have a 100,000$ 4:4:4 12bit camera system for under 6 grand ;) ;)

James Hurd · February 12th, 2005, 12:30 AM

I don't really want to either. But for the price of a good hi-res video monitor, you can buy a laptop that can perform more functions than a monitor.

I've thought about taking some of our hi-brighted lcd 10.4 displays at work ( www.efueling.net ) . It would be awesome, but would be quite expensive for everyone.

So far I've been trying to provide solutions for the low/no budget indie folks, so I'm going to try and stay on that track.

Although, you could certainly run the program on a micro ATX with a firewire port.

Obin Olson · February 12th, 2005, 12:36 AM

you can get cheap LCD screens.....I have a touch screen that is 1024x768 for around $300...not bad and the ones without touch are cheaper....

Obin Olson · February 12th, 2005, 12:54 AM

james are you using this:

http://www.formatt.co.uk/dvt/default.asp

in your photos?

When do you think you will ship the book and have all the parts ready? I am really needing your unit!

Forgot to ask ..are you using a CD-ROM for your GG? I hope not as i don't think the image is as good as it could be with a better GG...

Jim Lafferty · February 12th, 2005, 10:07 AM

Give it a rest already, Obin. Let the man do his work and, as John Carmack would say "It's done when it's done."

- jim

Joshua Starnes · February 12th, 2005, 10:41 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : Forgot to ask ..are you using a CD-ROM for your GG? I hope not as i don't think the image is as good as it could be with a better GG... -->>>

I think he said he's using custom made GG.

You know, Obin, once this and the reel-stream product are widely available, its going to put your DIY HD camera project out of business.

Ivan Hurtado · February 12th, 2005, 12:41 PM

I don´t think James wants to put Obin´s Cam out of the way... I will be interested in both, as they complement so well. Unless Obin go directly to 35mm mount. Then i have my XM1 wich is what im using now very happily though.

And the Andromeda it´s still on the way. Plus, you have this new thread going around... Something about Pana´s leak of news (hehehe). Very interesting indeed. It´s the good thing about competition. I don´t own a DVX so Andromeda is not interesting for me, Obin´s is.

Anyway... Im Looking for the program too. I have a Spanish version of Asus 12 inches laptop. It´s just 1´2 with 40 gigs. but i hope it makes the way to it.

Obin Olson · February 12th, 2005, 04:57 PM

I don't think this is going to have an effect on me...first off my camera is 1080p uncopmressed. I can dial in any frame rate you want. I will have a GG adaptor inside the camera so that all you use are 35mm lenses..WITH 35mm DOF and you can set your widescreen from 1 pixel high to 1080..oh and I am using the Altasense and CMOS chips..much more "film" looking then ccd IMHO...I have no worries...if what I am doing gets some fire under the butts of the "Big Boys" that makes me feel even better...I am not out to make a BIG buck but help provide a solution that is NEEDED.

I hope you see my POV.

Aaron Shaw · February 12th, 2005, 05:23 PM

I think you're probably quite right Obin. I don't see it wiping you out at least.

Quote:

Plus, you have this new thread going around... Something about Pana´s leak of news (hehehe).

It has been _confirmed_ by Jan Crittenden that the new camera will be DVCProHD which is 100mbs (screw HDV). Pretty nice! I suspect it will only be 720p though.

Kyle Edwards · February 12th, 2005, 08:40 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Aaron Shaw : It has been _confirmed_ by Jan Crittenden that the new camera will be DVCProHD which is 100mbs (screw HDV). Pretty nice! I suspect it will only be 720p though. -->>>

That'd be one gig per minute at 720p at 30fps. I wonder how they plan on working around that. Have a link to the information you are going on?

EDIT: Nm, found it.

February 12th, 2005, 12:41 PM	#237
Ivan Hurtado Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Granada, Spain Posts: 75	I don´t think James wants to put Obin´s Cam out of the way... I will be interested in both, as they complement so well. Unless Obin go directly to 35mm mount. Then i have my XM1 wich is what im using now very happily though. And the Andromeda it´s still on the way. Plus, you have this new thread going around... Something about Pana´s leak of news (hehehe). Very interesting indeed. It´s the good thing about competition. I don´t own a DVX so Andromeda is not interesting for me, Obin´s is. Anyway... Im Looking for the program too. I have a Spanish version of Asus 12 inches laptop. It´s just 1´2 with 40 gigs. but i hope it makes the way to it. __________________ IvI

February 11th, 2005, 11:29 PM	#226
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	so a firewire monitor that can record the image on a drive? and show it the right side up?

February 11th, 2005, 11:30 PM	#227
Joshua Starnes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 356	If the price points about the same or less than DV Rack, sure. What made you decide to go that route. And have you had any luck with an XL-1 solution?

February 11th, 2005, 11:40 PM	#228
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	I haven't got my hands on an XL1 yet. I've had the video code for a while, I've just never had a reason to finish it after DVRack came out. Now, I've wanted to have the framing capabilities and the video rotate feature and no one has it. Yet. The price would be a fraction of the cost of DVRack. Maybe $50 or something like that. I dug it out tonight and played around with it some. I did a couple of frame templates. It looks pretty good. If any of you guys are interested, I see that it gets finished... j

February 12th, 2005, 12:10 AM	#229
John Sandel Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: stately Eldora Road Posts: 386	I'm interested. Would this putative miracle be a Windows program? If so, what would the minimum hardware requirements be? Details, James---details!

February 12th, 2005, 12:19 AM	#230
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	Windows. If you can capture video from your camera, it will work on your computer. EDIT: If you're interested, please email me. I don't won't to go too off topic here.

February 12th, 2005, 12:23 AM	#231
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	having a ""computer" while shooting would be a pain in the butt..what we need is a MICRO ATX or ITX computer system with an LCD on the front so it's an lcdscreen/computer all in one that can be mounted on the dvx100 micro35 system I for one don't want a laptop dragging around with me while I shoot... oh and BTW justt ad a FAST USB 2 port and harddrive and the reel-stream system and you have a 100,000$ 4:4:4 12bit camera system for under 6 grand ;) ;)

February 12th, 2005, 12:30 AM	#232
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	I don't really want to either. But for the price of a good hi-res video monitor, you can buy a laptop that can perform more functions than a monitor. I've thought about taking some of our hi-brighted lcd 10.4 displays at work ( www.efueling.net ) . It would be awesome, but would be quite expensive for everyone. So far I've been trying to provide solutions for the low/no budget indie folks, so I'm going to try and stay on that track. Although, you could certainly run the program on a micro ATX with a firewire port.

February 12th, 2005, 12:36 AM	#233
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	you can get cheap LCD screens.....I have a touch screen that is 1024x768 for around $300...not bad and the ones without touch are cheaper....

February 12th, 2005, 12:54 AM	#234
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	james are you using this: http://www.formatt.co.uk/dvt/default.asp in your photos? When do you think you will ship the book and have all the parts ready? I am really needing your unit! Forgot to ask ..are you using a CD-ROM for your GG? I hope not as i don't think the image is as good as it could be with a better GG...

February 12th, 2005, 10:07 AM	#235
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	Give it a rest already, Obin. Let the man do his work and, as John Carmack would say "It's done when it's done." - jim

February 12th, 2005, 10:41 AM	#236
Joshua Starnes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 356	<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : Forgot to ask ..are you using a CD-ROM for your GG? I hope not as i don't think the image is as good as it could be with a better GG... -->>> I think he said he's using custom made GG. You know, Obin, once this and the reel-stream product are widely available, its going to put your DIY HD camera project out of business.

February 12th, 2005, 04:57 PM	#238
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	I don't think this is going to have an effect on me...first off my camera is 1080p uncopmressed. I can dial in any frame rate you want. I will have a GG adaptor inside the camera so that all you use are 35mm lenses..WITH 35mm DOF and you can set your widescreen from 1 pixel high to 1080..oh and I am using the Altasense and CMOS chips..much more "film" looking then ccd IMHO...I have no worries...if what I am doing gets some fire under the butts of the "Big Boys" that makes me feel even better...I am not out to make a BIG buck but help provide a solution that is NEEDED. I hope you see my POV.

February 12th, 2005, 08:40 PM	#240
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	<<<-- Originally posted by Aaron Shaw : It has been _confirmed_ by Jan Crittenden that the new camera will be DVCProHD which is 100mbs (screw HDV). Pretty nice! I suspect it will only be 720p though. -->>> That'd be one gig per minute at 720p at 30fps. I wonder how they plan on working around that. Have a link to the information you are going on? EDIT: Nm, found it.