Micro35 (original thread)

James Hurd · February 26th, 2005, 03:46 PM

I'm very happy with the F-Stops on the micro35. Actually, I believe the osciallting idea is so you can move the glass and not get any specific visible patterns. It really doesn't have anything to do with the F-Stops.

james

Dave Frank · February 26th, 2005, 03:52 PM

What is the highest f-stop you can go to before seeing the glass?

Danny Dahlquist · February 26th, 2005, 04:14 PM

Have you fitted an adapter to a Canon XL-1s yet? I am very interested in the whole package as long as it's below $1000 finished, ready to shoot.

Obin Olson · February 26th, 2005, 05:46 PM

James is that Sigma a AF SLR without Iris on the outside(manual iris)?? is that a Canon mount?

John Harvey · February 26th, 2005, 06:25 PM

Hello James,
been following your development and bought into your guide a few weeks back. Looking forward to having a leg up on the engineering. Got a few Nikkor choices coming.

PS: Thank you for the upgrade to a GG and sticker.

jh

James Hurd · February 26th, 2005, 08:30 PM

Dave,
I think you're talking about the shutter speed. I went to 1/250 comfortably today testing the last round of GGs.

Turns out, the 60 will probably be the way to go. The 40, 30 and 20 looked great, but I slowly started losing DOF as I went down. The 40 actually looked a little too cloudy. 60 Looks awesome.

Obin, my sigma is an AF SLR without a manual iris. After playing with the lomo today, I've learned having iris control is pretty sweet. The resolution looked much better controlling the iris than just flipping an ND on. Adding the ND caused a little resolution loss. So I'll probably check out some Nikon lenses since my canon doesn't have the manual iris.

No problem on the sticker. It's actually one of those 'Domed' stickers. They look pretty sweet on the adapter.

Here's a couple of caps using my DIY 'dvrack'ish' software. It sure makes it easier to focus when using the adapter.

www.micro35.com/pics/test.jpg
www.micro35.com/pics/test2.jpg

They were cap'd using the LOMO lens. I'm told it's his 'bad' lens. He sent to me to use for machining the LOMO mount.

James

Maheel Perera · February 26th, 2005, 09:28 PM

How was your test with the Sony HDV Camera?

James Hurd · February 26th, 2005, 09:31 PM

I haven't got to test it yet....

Dave Frank · February 27th, 2005, 04:14 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by James Hurd : I think you're talking about the shutter speed. >>>

I was actually talking about F-stop. For example on Charles Papert's review of the 400 series mini35, he mentions that the oscillating glass allows for deeper t-stops. One of the main problems with the 300 series is that you can't shoot any higher than 3.5 basically. On the other hand I have shot all the way to 1/4000 shutter with the 300 series and have had no serious grain issues.

Leo Mandy · February 27th, 2005, 07:12 PM

Why did you letterbox the vid-caps, James?

Brad Phillips · February 28th, 2005, 12:03 AM

I am new to the minidv world but I have read this entire post and am overwhelmed and intrigued. I would like to purchase a pre-assembled unit but I have a few questions.

1. You were talking about the image being flipped, have you fixed this? Is there a way to fix it on my XL2?

2. I have no idea when it comes to lenses, what kind of lenses would you reccomend I purchase for this set-up? I shoot outside mostly (motocross videos)

3. Have you gotten a set-up to work with the XL2 yet?

4. Is audio recording still feasible with this set-up?

5. Does the $500 price tag include everything? (mounts, rails, gg. lenses, etc.)

James Hurd · February 28th, 2005, 12:22 AM

Mandy,
My camera was in letter box mode when I'd ran outside and filmed the horses. The resolution charts aren't letter boxed.

Brad,
1. I haven't gotten a chance to work with the XL2.
2. 35mm SLR (Nikon or Canon)
3. See #1 (I'm wanting to though!)
4. THe adapter doesn't affect the audio.
5. Everything but the 35mm lens.

Hope this helps!!

James

Brad Phillips · February 28th, 2005, 01:06 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by James Hurd : Mandy,

1. I haven't gotten a chance to work with the XL2.

James -->>>

Brad Phillips · February 28th, 2005, 01:07 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by James Hurd : Mandy,

1. I haven't gotten a chance to work with the XL2.

James -->>>

Do you know when you will get a chance to work with an XL2? I noticed a few pages back that someone in your area offered to let you use his. Once you get something worked out for the XL2 I will buy one (maybe 2)

James Hurd · February 28th, 2005, 01:11 AM

Sounds great Brad. I'll keep you posted!

February 26th, 2005, 03:52 PM	#302
Dave Frank Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 244	What is the highest f-stop you can go to before seeing the glass? __________________ http://www.sleeptightmovie.com

February 27th, 2005, 04:14 AM	#309
Dave Frank Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 244	<<<-- Originally posted by James Hurd : I think you're talking about the shutter speed. >>> I was actually talking about F-stop. For example on Charles Papert's review of the 400 series mini35, he mentions that the oscillating glass allows for deeper t-stops. One of the main problems with the 300 series is that you can't shoot any higher than 3.5 basically. On the other hand I have shot all the way to 1/4000 shutter with the 300 series and have had no serious grain issues. __________________ http://www.sleeptightmovie.com

February 28th, 2005, 01:06 AM	#313
Brad Phillips New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 13	<<<-- Originally posted by James Hurd : Mandy, 1. I haven't gotten a chance to work with the XL2. James -->>> __________________ www.Premisind.com

February 28th, 2005, 01:07 AM	#314
Brad Phillips New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 13	<<<-- Originally posted by James Hurd : Mandy, 1. I haven't gotten a chance to work with the XL2. James -->>> Do you know when you will get a chance to work with an XL2? I noticed a few pages back that someone in your area offered to let you use his. Once you get something worked out for the XL2 I will buy one (maybe 2) __________________ www.Premisind.com

February 26th, 2005, 03:46 PM	#301
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	I'm very happy with the F-Stops on the micro35. Actually, I believe the osciallting idea is so you can move the glass and not get any specific visible patterns. It really doesn't have anything to do with the F-Stops. james

February 26th, 2005, 04:14 PM	#303
Danny Dahlquist Tourist Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sumner, WA Posts: 3	Have you fitted an adapter to a Canon XL-1s yet? I am very interested in the whole package as long as it's below $1000 finished, ready to shoot.

February 26th, 2005, 05:46 PM	#304
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	James is that Sigma a AF SLR without Iris on the outside(manual iris)?? is that a Canon mount?

February 26th, 2005, 06:25 PM	#305
John Harvey Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: los angeles, ca Posts: 76	Hello James, been following your development and bought into your guide a few weeks back. Looking forward to having a leg up on the engineering. Got a few Nikkor choices coming. PS: Thank you for the upgrade to a GG and sticker. jh

February 26th, 2005, 08:30 PM	#306
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	Dave, I think you're talking about the shutter speed. I went to 1/250 comfortably today testing the last round of GGs. Turns out, the 60 will probably be the way to go. The 40, 30 and 20 looked great, but I slowly started losing DOF as I went down. The 40 actually looked a little too cloudy. 60 Looks awesome. Obin, my sigma is an AF SLR without a manual iris. After playing with the lomo today, I've learned having iris control is pretty sweet. The resolution looked much better controlling the iris than just flipping an ND on. Adding the ND caused a little resolution loss. So I'll probably check out some Nikon lenses since my canon doesn't have the manual iris. No problem on the sticker. It's actually one of those 'Domed' stickers. They look pretty sweet on the adapter. Here's a couple of caps using my DIY 'dvrack'ish' software. It sure makes it easier to focus when using the adapter. www.micro35.com/pics/test.jpg www.micro35.com/pics/test2.jpg They were cap'd using the LOMO lens. I'm told it's his 'bad' lens. He sent to me to use for machining the LOMO mount. James

February 26th, 2005, 09:28 PM	#307
Maheel Perera Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 128	How was your test with the Sony HDV Camera?

February 26th, 2005, 09:31 PM	#308
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	I haven't got to test it yet....

February 27th, 2005, 07:12 PM	#310
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Why did you letterbox the vid-caps, James?

February 28th, 2005, 12:03 AM	#311
Brad Phillips New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 13	I am new to the minidv world but I have read this entire post and am overwhelmed and intrigued. I would like to purchase a pre-assembled unit but I have a few questions. 1. You were talking about the image being flipped, have you fixed this? Is there a way to fix it on my XL2? 2. I have no idea when it comes to lenses, what kind of lenses would you reccomend I purchase for this set-up? I shoot outside mostly (motocross videos) 3. Have you gotten a set-up to work with the XL2 yet? 4. Is audio recording still feasible with this set-up? 5. Does the $500 price tag include everything? (mounts, rails, gg. lenses, etc.)

February 28th, 2005, 12:22 AM	#312
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	Mandy, My camera was in letter box mode when I'd ran outside and filmed the horses. The resolution charts aren't letter boxed. Brad, 1. I haven't gotten a chance to work with the XL2. 2. 35mm SLR (Nikon or Canon) 3. See #1 (I'm wanting to though!) 4. THe adapter doesn't affect the audio. 5. Everything but the 35mm lens. Hope this helps!! James

February 28th, 2005, 01:11 AM	#315
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	Sounds great Brad. I'll keep you posted!