1x 35mm 2x DV project

Oscar Spierenburg · February 21st, 2005, 06:39 PM

I've finished the last major bumps, so I'm ready to start shooting. This week I'm in Anvers (Belgium) where I'll be doing some testing on a scene I'm planning. So if I have some new footage, I'll post it.
I'm sure the adapter needs a lot of tweaking, but now I can pick it up, press REC and start filming.

Leo Mandy · February 21st, 2005, 07:07 PM

I can't wait to see the footage. Your double cam has great colour saturation! Shoot shoot shoot! I am sure you will turn some heads with that thing, maybe you might bump into something that has some money to invest!

Oscar Spierenburg · March 3rd, 2005, 06:43 PM

For people interested in my project: Here is an example how the two camera's mix.

http://s01.picshome.com/52a/0-00-09-02c.jpg

It's in full resolution 1040 x 720 but it's JPG compressed. I think it's also a good example of the DOF adapter.

-It was shot with one 500W (indirect) and one 300W (direct) spot.
-With color correct, I mean to mix the images together, the footage is not color corrected for final use.

Dan Diaconu · March 3rd, 2005, 09:29 PM

Looks good Oscar!
Keep on doing what you are doing, looks good.
What is your frame size now? Is it close to 20/30mm (or so)?
How painful is the editing? Would it be worth while for commercial purposes? Time consuming? I am thinking 10:1 feature (or even a commercial). If you have 60 minutes of footage to line up (times two that is), how long before you can get to editing? Anyway good workaround the resolution with great results.
Bravo.

Soeren Mueller · March 4th, 2005, 03:27 AM

Looks very nice! Now replace the two Sony cams with two DVX100A... :-))
No really... although I'm located in northwest Germany that's not really far from the netherlands... I own a DVX100A myself and it wouldn't be a problem to organize another one. Not sure right now which cam Rob Lohman owns...
So if you would be interested to test this out with two DVX - I'd be very interested!

Cheers,
-Sören

Oscar Spierenburg · March 4th, 2005, 07:49 AM

Dan, right now with my ordinary PC it renders one frame a second. Lining them up and color correcting should be the same for every take, but I still have some differences sometimes.
If you mean the framesize of the DOF machine (the frame on the GG), I don't know exactly but I'm sure it's near 35mm. So about 17mm for each camera.

Soeren, it would be nice, but the whole thing is build on my camera because they are placed on their sides.
Maybe I'll make a universal setup in the future, I'll let you know.

Leo Mandy · March 6th, 2005, 08:50 AM

Oscar,

Any more footage on the way? I would love to see a scene when you are ready. Also, any pics of the new unit?

Oscar Spierenburg · March 6th, 2005, 10:26 AM

This is a test on the amount of color correction I can use to get the look I want, without getting saturated noise and things.

http://s01.picshome.com/52a/fr3.jpg

Note: The dark part on the wall is a corner, not the border between the two cams.

I'm now on to making some sort of anamorphic system on the adapter. First I'll try a single water prism right after the GG.

Leo Mandy · March 6th, 2005, 10:48 AM

Did you deinterlace the footage for that shot? It looks really good!

Oscar Spierenburg · March 6th, 2005, 01:34 PM

I de-interlace everything, because the interlace is vertically since the cams are on their sides. This is another advantage of the double camera idea.

Oscar Spierenburg · March 9th, 2005, 05:42 PM

If have some footage online. It's highly compressed, but it's to show that I can actually film with this thing. Editing was not much trouble at all, including combining the footage.

link to the site(hotlinking is not permitted):
http://doublecam.250free.com/

Rob Lohman · March 12th, 2005, 07:34 AM

Looks good, as in can't see it has been stitched together. So you
are all doing this to get an HD like frame? What kind of resolution
are you totalling now?

Oscar Spierenburg · March 12th, 2005, 07:50 AM

1040 x 720.
I'm not only doing this for the resolution, because it's a DOF adapter as well. I had made an adapter previously, but I wanted to make a better one anyway.

March 9th, 2005, 05:42 PM	#41
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	Footage If have some footage online. It's highly compressed, but it's to show that I can actually film with this thing. Editing was not much trouble at all, including combining the footage. link to the site(hotlinking is not permitted): http://doublecam.250free.com/

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February 21st, 2005, 06:39 PM	#31
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	I've finished the last major bumps, so I'm ready to start shooting. This week I'm in Anvers (Belgium) where I'll be doing some testing on a scene I'm planning. So if I have some new footage, I'll post it. I'm sure the adapter needs a lot of tweaking, but now I can pick it up, press REC and start filming.

February 21st, 2005, 07:07 PM	#32
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	I can't wait to see the footage. Your double cam has great colour saturation! Shoot shoot shoot! I am sure you will turn some heads with that thing, maybe you might bump into something that has some money to invest!

March 3rd, 2005, 06:43 PM	#33
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	For people interested in my project: Here is an example how the two camera's mix. http://s01.picshome.com/52a/0-00-09-02c.jpg It's in full resolution 1040 x 720 but it's JPG compressed. I think it's also a good example of the DOF adapter. -It was shot with one 500W (indirect) and one 300W (direct) spot. -With color correct, I mean to mix the images together, the footage is not color corrected for final use.

March 3rd, 2005, 09:29 PM	#34
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Looks good Oscar! Keep on doing what you are doing, looks good. What is your frame size now? Is it close to 20/30mm (or so)? How painful is the editing? Would it be worth while for commercial purposes? Time consuming? I am thinking 10:1 feature (or even a commercial). If you have 60 minutes of footage to line up (times two that is), how long before you can get to editing? Anyway good workaround the resolution with great results. Bravo.

March 4th, 2005, 03:27 AM	#35
Soeren Mueller Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Düsseldorf, Germany / Denver, CO Posts: 137	Looks very nice! Now replace the two Sony cams with two DVX100A... :-)) No really... although I'm located in northwest Germany that's not really far from the netherlands... I own a DVX100A myself and it wouldn't be a problem to organize another one. Not sure right now which cam Rob Lohman owns... So if you would be interested to test this out with two DVX - I'd be very interested! Cheers, -Sören

March 4th, 2005, 07:49 AM	#36
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	Dan, right now with my ordinary PC it renders one frame a second. Lining them up and color correcting should be the same for every take, but I still have some differences sometimes. If you mean the framesize of the DOF machine (the frame on the GG), I don't know exactly but I'm sure it's near 35mm. So about 17mm for each camera. Soeren, it would be nice, but the whole thing is build on my camera because they are placed on their sides. Maybe I'll make a universal setup in the future, I'll let you know.

March 6th, 2005, 08:50 AM	#37
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Oscar, Any more footage on the way? I would love to see a scene when you are ready. Also, any pics of the new unit?

March 6th, 2005, 10:26 AM	#38
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	This is a test on the amount of color correction I can use to get the look I want, without getting saturated noise and things. http://s01.picshome.com/52a/fr3.jpg Note: The dark part on the wall is a corner, not the border between the two cams. I'm now on to making some sort of anamorphic system on the adapter. First I'll try a single water prism right after the GG.

March 6th, 2005, 10:48 AM	#39
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Did you deinterlace the footage for that shot? It looks really good!

March 6th, 2005, 01:34 PM	#40
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	I de-interlace everything, because the interlace is vertically since the cams are on their sides. This is another advantage of the double camera idea.

March 12th, 2005, 07:50 AM	#43
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	1040 x 720. I'm not only doing this for the resolution, because it's a DOF adapter as well. I had made an adapter previously, but I wanted to make a better one anyway.