Anamorphics

Dan Diaconu · February 24th, 2005, 01:12 PM

>>>It is/will be designed to mount to a 35mm mount.<<< and project that anamorphic image on a GG !

Whatever the format you shoot, will be the same (3:4, 16:9)
The image will be squeezed though on that format.
Keep it up Aaron. Good idea.

Robert Double · March 9th, 2005, 06:30 PM

Hi Aaron,

Haven't seen any new posting's on here for a while and was just wondering how you are progressing with the adapter?

Cheers

Robert

Aaron Shaw · March 9th, 2005, 06:50 PM

Yep things are progressing :).

It's taking a while as there are so many variables but I'm slowly getting there. I'll hopefully have some decent information to post by the end of the month.

Aaron Shaw · March 31st, 2005, 12:44 PM

Things are going well.

However, I'm putting this project on hold. With the new HVX200 and the uncertainty of the cheap 35mm market I'm going to bide my time for a while. I need money for a new HD camera after all and I can't afford to do both! ;)

Oscar Spierenburg · March 31st, 2005, 05:26 PM

Too bad you have to put this on hold.

By the way, have you seen my tests on the water prisms? (three threads down, currently)
I'm surprised, as you were when starting your project, that there aren't many people interested in anamorphics.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to hear you put it back -off- hold.

Aaron Shaw · March 31st, 2005, 07:09 PM

Thanks Oscar :). It's going to be as short a "hold" as possible. It's an area that I'm fascinated with (as you know!) so I very much enjoy working on it. But money speaks or so they say. Can't do everything at once when you're a poor student :(.

Brian Valente · March 31st, 2005, 10:08 PM

Aaron - what do you mean by "uncertainty of the market for cheap 35mm" - do you mean you are uncertain how much demand there will be for this type of product?

Keith Kline · March 31st, 2005, 11:58 PM

Well I'm still interested in an anamorphic adapter for these devices. My personal opinion is that a front mounted version is the way to go, but unfortunitly I don't know where to start. I wish there were existing optics that could be used in conjuction to provide this to an adapter, but it doesn't seem like it. How do the Panasonic, Century Optics, Optex models work? Do you think they all use custom glass or are they just using some type of esisting glass optics (cylinder lenses of some type)? Anyone have any input.

Dan Diaconu if you happen to see this, you mentioned somewhere in one of the threads you had used one of the 16:9 adapters right? Do you have any input into what type of glass these type of adapters use to squeeze the footage?

Aaron, somewhere you discribed how you might make your rear adapter, but i don't have it handy. There was a two lens set up and I was wondering what the purpose of the second element was?

Brian Valente · April 1st, 2005, 12:05 AM

http://www.cinematography.com/forum2004/lofiversion/index.php?t4690.html

That may provide some info for you.

Dan Diaconu · April 1st, 2005, 12:25 AM

This is the one I tried:
http://www.47stphoto.com/ceopds16wisc.html
It seem happy with the 35/1.4 Nikkor as well (not only GL1 or 2) Might be used on other lenses too (I did not try it on the rest of the lenses though), but the advice on cinematography still applies (film, HD or image converters)

Frank Vrionis · April 1st, 2005, 01:43 AM

Brian that's a total shame. Was willing to buy one.

Dan that doesn't fit on the end of a 35mm rig though does it?

Dan Diaconu · April 1st, 2005, 08:38 AM

A 35mm rig starts with a 35mm lens. The front mount of these lenses are within "range" of the anamorphic. Even if not 58mm, there are adapters from 58 to what-have-you.

Brian Valente · April 1st, 2005, 08:51 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Vrionis : Brian that's a total shame. Was willing to buy one.

Dan that doesn't fit on the end of a 35mm rig though does it? -->>>

What was a total shame?

Aaron Shaw · April 1st, 2005, 10:04 AM

Do note that the "hold" is temporary ;).

Frank Vrionis · April 5th, 2005, 06:28 AM

Brian....er...I meant Aaron!!!

Aaron. The new Panasonic camera has a 16:9 chip. I doubt you'll find another market for a 16:9 lens outside of this one.

...unless your going for wider....

March 9th, 2005, 06:30 PM	#47
Robert Double Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 74	Any further progress Hi Aaron, Haven't seen any new posting's on here for a while and was just wondering how you are progressing with the adapter? Cheers Robert

February 24th, 2005, 01:12 PM	#46
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	>>>It is/will be designed to mount to a 35mm mount.<<< and project that anamorphic image on a GG ! Whatever the format you shoot, will be the same (3:4, 16:9) The image will be squeezed though on that format. Keep it up Aaron. Good idea.

March 9th, 2005, 06:50 PM	#48
Aaron Shaw Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 587	Yep things are progressing :). It's taking a while as there are so many variables but I'm slowly getting there. I'll hopefully have some decent information to post by the end of the month.

March 31st, 2005, 12:44 PM	#49
Aaron Shaw Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 587	Things are going well. However, I'm putting this project on hold. With the new HVX200 and the uncertainty of the cheap 35mm market I'm going to bide my time for a while. I need money for a new HD camera after all and I can't afford to do both! ;)

March 31st, 2005, 05:26 PM	#50
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	Too bad you have to put this on hold. By the way, have you seen my tests on the water prisms? (three threads down, currently) I'm surprised, as you were when starting your project, that there aren't many people interested in anamorphics. Anyway, I'm looking forward to hear you put it back -off- hold.

March 31st, 2005, 07:09 PM	#51
Aaron Shaw Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 587	Thanks Oscar :). It's going to be as short a "hold" as possible. It's an area that I'm fascinated with (as you know!) so I very much enjoy working on it. But money speaks or so they say. Can't do everything at once when you're a poor student :(.

March 31st, 2005, 10:08 PM	#52
Brian Valente Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 293	Aaron - what do you mean by "uncertainty of the market for cheap 35mm" - do you mean you are uncertain how much demand there will be for this type of product?

March 31st, 2005, 11:58 PM	#53
Keith Kline Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 153	Well I'm still interested in an anamorphic adapter for these devices. My personal opinion is that a front mounted version is the way to go, but unfortunitly I don't know where to start. I wish there were existing optics that could be used in conjuction to provide this to an adapter, but it doesn't seem like it. How do the Panasonic, Century Optics, Optex models work? Do you think they all use custom glass or are they just using some type of esisting glass optics (cylinder lenses of some type)? Anyone have any input. Dan Diaconu if you happen to see this, you mentioned somewhere in one of the threads you had used one of the 16:9 adapters right? Do you have any input into what type of glass these type of adapters use to squeeze the footage? Aaron, somewhere you discribed how you might make your rear adapter, but i don't have it handy. There was a two lens set up and I was wondering what the purpose of the second element was?

April 1st, 2005, 12:05 AM	#54
Brian Valente Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 293	http://www.cinematography.com/forum2004/lofiversion/index.php?t4690.html That may provide some info for you.

April 1st, 2005, 12:25 AM	#55
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	This is the one I tried: http://www.47stphoto.com/ceopds16wisc.html It seem happy with the 35/1.4 Nikkor as well (not only GL1 or 2) Might be used on other lenses too (I did not try it on the rest of the lenses though), but the advice on cinematography still applies (film, HD or image converters)

April 1st, 2005, 01:43 AM	#56
Frank Vrionis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93	Brian that's a total shame. Was willing to buy one. Dan that doesn't fit on the end of a 35mm rig though does it?

April 1st, 2005, 08:38 AM	#57
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	A 35mm rig starts with a 35mm lens. The front mount of these lenses are within "range" of the anamorphic. Even if not 58mm, there are adapters from 58 to what-have-you.

April 1st, 2005, 08:51 AM	#58
Brian Valente Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 293	<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Vrionis : Brian that's a total shame. Was willing to buy one. Dan that doesn't fit on the end of a 35mm rig though does it? -->>> What was a total shame?

April 1st, 2005, 10:04 AM	#59
Aaron Shaw Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 587	Do note that the "hold" is temporary ;).

April 5th, 2005, 06:28 AM	#60
Frank Vrionis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93	Brian....er...I meant Aaron!!! Aaron. The new Panasonic camera has a 16:9 chip. I doubt you'll find another market for a 16:9 lens outside of this one. ...unless your going for wider....