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Old May 12th, 2005, 05:33 PM   #16
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Craig,
What deinterlace filter are you using in virtualdub?
I think there are a fair few 'smart' deinterlacers around.

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Old May 12th, 2005, 07:09 PM   #17
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deinterlace filter

I've been trying out "Field BOB" some guy made it and by the reviews it's great. The've even incoperated it into VDUB. BUT Again I'm new to VDUB and even to deinterlacing. SO Is it good.? Not sure... Seams good and looks good to me... I need to try it against Procoder and maybe Adobe... I have a question though.. If I deinterlace be fore I bring the footage into Premier Pro 1.5... When I export do I need to do abything special so keep it deinterlaced? Or should I do all deinterlacing when I'm finished with the whole project? thanks
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Old May 12th, 2005, 08:28 PM   #18
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Keyframe and Rendering, select No Fields (Progressive Scan) when exporting from Premiere Pro.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 11:43 PM   #19
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Craig,
I have run through all options; both P and PPro do the damn 180 rotation CLEAN! (....Comes to think of it: if they made all those options available, they should do a good job shouldn’t they? including the 180 deg!!)
The lines we saw (from your footage) are here (in my tests) as well, but that is the "nature" of the beast (temporal and spatial displacement during fast motion between fields captured in 60i)
Try this: import a still with fine details (real still image, not from footage) get it in the time line. Copy/paste (same image) and flip it, then print to video, see it in full scren. Change all settings (frame, fields, deinterlace) and then do the same and change the monitor's settings from 60, 70, 72 to 75Hz. See what happens. Let us know.
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Old May 13th, 2005, 12:05 AM   #20
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DVMaker kicks a** when it comes to deinterlacing.

http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/

They have a free trial
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Old May 13th, 2005, 12:19 AM   #21
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Hello Mini 35ers.
I am wondering if it is the codec in Premiere that makes our vision flipped look bad or is it just the render engine. What abotu a program like after effects?

In some tests ive seen the image flipped in DV Microsoft, edited, then color corrected and put to dvd makes it look like a VCD.

I think i might take the free avid approach next time, or go uncompressed altogether,

Will the avid dv codec work in premiere?

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Old May 16th, 2005, 05:25 PM   #22
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I was thinking...doesn't anyone know some programmers who could create a simple capture program which automatic rotates the footage when capturing....something like winDV with this feature built in?? This would be really nice. Perhaps in form of a plugin to any known capturing program??
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Old May 16th, 2005, 08:52 PM   #23
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Comes to think of it..... is already there!!!
The image from the camcorder's lens hitting the CCD is up side down (to begin with). So.... what you are talking about I think is already there doing what it should not supposed to do (lol) (for our purposes).
I would guess it would be just a pull up resistor to be disconnected, or.... a switch on the case (optional)
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Old May 17th, 2005, 06:57 AM   #24
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Are you talking about modifying the camera itself? I really think a capture program with this built in feature would be the easiest approach. It shouldn't be that hard to do for someone who knows how to program. It should just be a question about getting the program to read the pixels from the opposite sides or am I way off?
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Old May 17th, 2005, 08:49 AM   #25
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Given the huge interest in the micro35 and this whole space, the NLEs should do this. Adding a check box in FCP, Avid, etc. [insert your favorite NLE here] should be a no-brainer.
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Old May 19th, 2005, 04:09 AM   #26
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Would you be able to do that?
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Old May 19th, 2005, 09:55 AM   #27
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If by "you" you mean the NLE vendors, then sure, why not. I volunteer them wholeheartedly :)
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