New SG35 'Real Spinning Ground Glass Adapter' Commercial version coming soon.

Michael Maier · September 20th, 2005, 03:29 PM

Hey Wayne, any news on the tree clips and the new DV clip?

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2005, 03:33 PM

Michael,
I cant see it being too long. Im putting my resources into finalising my 15mm rods support right now. Once the support is finished to my satisfaction, ill pop outside and get them shots for ya my friend.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Michael Maier · September 20th, 2005, 04:01 PM

Ok thanks.

Wayne Kinney · September 22nd, 2005, 07:22 AM

OK guys,
I know people have been wanting to see the unit, but it is not to the point of being a finished product. So instead I have put together 2 of the 15mm rods together with a small piece of hardboard, and my prototype adapter together with my panny cam just for you guys to get a good idea of the size of the unit. adapter box is 150x100x60mm. Notice the small rotary knob on top for speed control.

The final rods support will have a 12mm thick base for the cam to sit on, and another 12mm base that rests on the tripod. Anyhow, this pic is just so you guys can get a 'feel' for the size of the thing.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...0prototype.jpg

Any input would be great.
Thanks,
Wayne.

Craig Bellaire · September 22nd, 2005, 08:04 AM

Ther video's look good BUT the Project Box is way to big and bulky. If you are gonna sell this then looks have a big part in sales. And the looks of this have a long way to go.. Sorry for the negative view and again the video looks really good.

As for me I would pay for the motor and GG as it is...

Wayne Kinney · September 22nd, 2005, 08:12 AM

Thanks for your input craig.

Dont worry, this aint the finished product:D Just to get an idea of size. As for the dimensions of the box, its the smallest possible to allow a rotating disk to allow a 36x24mm frame. I could have gone 'academy' frame size, but really didnt want to. The final rods will be nice a sturdy. I sujest you draw a 150x100mm square on a peice of paper, then look at it to get a proper idea of the size of the box. Picture quality is my first priorty, then size.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Michael Maier · September 22nd, 2005, 09:12 AM

Also, it looks like while most adapters using a spinning GG have the lens mount on the upper half, yours have it in the lower half. That might be a problem when using a XL2 or HD100, which have viewfinders mounted to the front. Can it be inverted and have the longer part pointing down?
I agree, it does look bulky and quite home made for a commercial version. But I realize you said it's not the final product yet.

Wayne Kinney · September 22nd, 2005, 09:24 AM

Michael,
The final rod support will be adjustable, so that the box can slide up and down to adjust for different cams. To be honest, thats another reason i posted to pic showing the prototype', to get input in order to modify the commercial unit. Yes thew pic is 'home made', as its taty from me making modification, and the rails support there is just for an idea of size of the unit.

aesthetic looks are going to be nice, and the project box may become a smaller aluminium one for the commercial version. You will see a big improvement in both the aesthetic looks and sturdiness of the final design.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Michael Maier · September 22nd, 2005, 09:27 AM

Wayne, I think you are in the right track. Please don't take my comments in a bad way. I was just trying to make some constructive criticism. Just trying to help ;)

Leo Mandy · September 22nd, 2005, 10:35 AM

Wayne,

With the small size GG, you should be able to shrink the project box by at least half, I would think. The micro35 is big because of the size of the CD, since yours is smaller, it should be able to fit in a smaller unit.

Wayne Kinney · September 22nd, 2005, 10:36 AM

Michael,
Not at all!!!, Without comments like yours, development would be slow, so thanks!!!

I have already decided on a smaller aluminium box for the commercial version.

Mandy, the disk is 90mm, the box is 95mm internal width width, not much room for shrinkage, but there is on the length dimension.

Anyway, here is some more footage up.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...stfootage3.mov (Bill Porter, you know what im going to ask;) hehe.

Anymore sugestions will be helpful,
Thanks, Wayne.

Gary Stone · September 22nd, 2005, 02:07 PM

dude...sign me up...is the aluminum box going to be bare aluminum or black? or muave? mark one of these as "sold" when it becomes available...

: )

gary

Ben Winter · September 22nd, 2005, 03:57 PM

Hehe. Wayne, is that a project box from radioshack you're using as the enclosure? Ahh, nothing like overpriced pieces of plastic.

You can definately find good-quality metal enclosures used for guitar stomp boxes and the like that are easy to drill through yet extremely well made. I'd suggest something like that.

What does it weigh btw?

Wayne Kinney · September 22nd, 2005, 04:21 PM

HI,
Ben, Thanks for the sugestion. I have sourced my project box, and its a 120x95x60 box, aluminium.

Smaller then the original ABS box, stronger and better looks. The 15mm rods support will also look sexy,

Thanks for everyones input, its your input that will lead to the best product.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Kurt August · September 22nd, 2005, 04:43 PM

Wayne, perhaps a silly suggestion, but you should get out more. Shoot some streets, trees, whatever. I understand filming the same subject shows the evolution, but then you really should be a bit more scientific. Otherwise, try to let it shine in as much different situations possible.

As for a business strategy, try to differentiate. What's your filosophy? Where does it differ from others? Will that be sufficient for the future? Who are your clients? Or, who do you want them to be? Just the basic stuff.

September 22nd, 2005, 08:04 AM	#35
Craig Bellaire Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 422	Project Box Ther video's look good BUT the Project Box is way to big and bulky. If you are gonna sell this then looks have a big part in sales. And the looks of this have a long way to go.. Sorry for the negative view and again the video looks really good. As for me I would pay for the motor and GG as it is... __________________ Craig Bellaire www.VerticalVideoSolutions.com

September 22nd, 2005, 10:36 AM	#41
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	More footage up!!! Michael, Not at all!!!, Without comments like yours, development would be slow, so thanks!!! I have already decided on a smaller aluminium box for the commercial version. Mandy, the disk is 90mm, the box is 95mm internal width width, not much room for shrinkage, but there is on the length dimension. Anyway, here is some more footage up. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...stfootage3.mov (Bill Porter, you know what im going to ask;) hehe. Anymore sugestions will be helpful, Thanks, Wayne. Last edited by Wayne Kinney; September 22nd, 2005 at 12:32 PM.

September 22nd, 2005, 03:57 PM	#43
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	Hehe. Wayne, is that a project box from radioshack you're using as the enclosure? Ahh, nothing like overpriced pieces of plastic. You can definately find good-quality metal enclosures used for guitar stomp boxes and the like that are easy to drill through yet extremely well made. I'd suggest something like that. What does it weigh btw? __________________ BenWinter.com

September 22nd, 2005, 04:43 PM	#45
Kurt August Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 94	Test footage Wayne, perhaps a silly suggestion, but you should get out more. Shoot some streets, trees, whatever. I understand filming the same subject shows the evolution, but then you really should be a bit more scientific. Otherwise, try to let it shine in as much different situations possible. As for a business strategy, try to differentiate. What's your filosophy? Where does it differ from others? Will that be sufficient for the future? Who are your clients? Or, who do you want them to be? Just the basic stuff.

September 20th, 2005, 03:29 PM	#31
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Hey Wayne, any news on the tree clips and the new DV clip?

September 20th, 2005, 03:33 PM	#32
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Michael, I cant see it being too long. Im putting my resources into finalising my 15mm rods support right now. Once the support is finished to my satisfaction, ill pop outside and get them shots for ya my friend. Thanks, Wayne.

September 20th, 2005, 04:01 PM	#33
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Ok thanks.

September 22nd, 2005, 07:22 AM	#34
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	OK guys, I know people have been wanting to see the unit, but it is not to the point of being a finished product. So instead I have put together 2 of the 15mm rods together with a small piece of hardboard, and my prototype adapter together with my panny cam just for you guys to get a good idea of the size of the unit. adapter box is 150x100x60mm. Notice the small rotary knob on top for speed control. The final rods support will have a 12mm thick base for the cam to sit on, and another 12mm base that rests on the tripod. Anyhow, this pic is just so you guys can get a 'feel' for the size of the thing. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...0prototype.jpg Any input would be great. Thanks, Wayne.

September 22nd, 2005, 08:12 AM	#36
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thanks for your input craig. Dont worry, this aint the finished product:D Just to get an idea of size. As for the dimensions of the box, its the smallest possible to allow a rotating disk to allow a 36x24mm frame. I could have gone 'academy' frame size, but really didnt want to. The final rods will be nice a sturdy. I sujest you draw a 150x100mm square on a peice of paper, then look at it to get a proper idea of the size of the box. Picture quality is my first priorty, then size. Thanks, Wayne.

September 22nd, 2005, 09:12 AM	#37
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Also, it looks like while most adapters using a spinning GG have the lens mount on the upper half, yours have it in the lower half. That might be a problem when using a XL2 or HD100, which have viewfinders mounted to the front. Can it be inverted and have the longer part pointing down? I agree, it does look bulky and quite home made for a commercial version. But I realize you said it's not the final product yet.

September 22nd, 2005, 09:24 AM	#38
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Michael, The final rod support will be adjustable, so that the box can slide up and down to adjust for different cams. To be honest, thats another reason i posted to pic showing the prototype', to get input in order to modify the commercial unit. Yes thew pic is 'home made', as its taty from me making modification, and the rails support there is just for an idea of size of the unit. aesthetic looks are going to be nice, and the project box may become a smaller aluminium one for the commercial version. You will see a big improvement in both the aesthetic looks and sturdiness of the final design. Thanks, Wayne.

September 22nd, 2005, 09:27 AM	#39
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Wayne, I think you are in the right track. Please don't take my comments in a bad way. I was just trying to make some constructive criticism. Just trying to help ;)

September 22nd, 2005, 10:35 AM	#40
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Wayne, With the small size GG, you should be able to shrink the project box by at least half, I would think. The micro35 is big because of the size of the CD, since yours is smaller, it should be able to fit in a smaller unit.

September 22nd, 2005, 02:07 PM	#42
Gary Stone Tourist Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4	dude...sign me up...is the aluminum box going to be bare aluminum or black? or muave? mark one of these as "sold" when it becomes available... : ) gary

September 22nd, 2005, 04:21 PM	#44
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	HI, Ben, Thanks for the sugestion. I have sourced my project box, and its a 120x95x60 box, aluminium. Smaller then the original ABS box, stronger and better looks. The 15mm rods support will also look sexy, Thanks for everyones input, its your input that will lead to the best product. Thanks, Wayne.