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Old January 20th, 2006, 09:02 AM   #46
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Fingernail polish sounds interesting...hope somebody tries it.
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Old January 20th, 2006, 09:39 AM   #47
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for a liquid.. what about clear fingernail polish? i havent tried it.. because i dont have any...
Then how do you keep the paint on your nails from chipping? I have to use two coats!
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Old January 20th, 2006, 09:48 AM   #48
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Old January 20th, 2006, 09:49 AM   #49
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i went through all of my gf's stuff.. she only has coloured stuff.. does anyone know if a couple even coats might work at all?
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Old January 20th, 2006, 08:09 PM   #50
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Hey guys I tried a bag that Ben had talked about using, and I was amazed by the result. I have to thank Alain for even coming up with the bag idea it was genius. check out the first test with a home depot screw bag at

http://irezfilms.8m.com/BAGTRY.mov

I have closed all my previous video samples
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Old January 21st, 2006, 07:49 AM   #51
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Bryan,

Looks good! You used a simple home depot plastic bag?
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Old January 21st, 2006, 08:56 AM   #52
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Alain Bellon, Bryan Ramirez,

please! is it possible somehow to BUY that bag from you? i'm so jealous - i can't find it here in poland. tryed in 20 different shops (different suppliers) - and nothing is even CLOSE to that. PLEASE! i am ready to buy the "interior" of that package (ham or hatever:)) for your pleasure :)

let me know if this is possible.

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Old January 21st, 2006, 09:44 AM   #53
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Filip,

Send me your home address to my email account and I will send you a bag or two.

Bryan,
Was that a static adapter? It looks like it, very nicely done. The colours are great and the image is crisp. I think Alain is onto a winner. Which adapter did you use?
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Old January 21st, 2006, 10:20 AM   #54
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Leo,

Did you have any problems removing any wrinkles? If so, how dod you remove them?


I see some vignetting in most of the clip, what adapter are u using?
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Old January 21st, 2006, 10:22 AM   #55
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You have to stretch the material out over a surface. I used a 58mm filter removed from the frame.
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Old January 21st, 2006, 11:50 AM   #56
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Thank you for the nice comments. It was a Homemade static adapter, and yea it was the bags you can get in the nail and screw department at Home Depot, The wrinkels, you have to find some area on the bag that doesn't have as many, then you just pull and tape the ends to what ever your using. I was very surprised. I'm actually going to get some old pagers today to take the vibrating motor out and get it on my " GROUND PLASTIC BAG ". I am having a vinnegting problem but Ill fix that eventually.
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Old January 21st, 2006, 01:38 PM   #57
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Where the ..hmm...funky(?)... did I burn my fingers for! Not too long ago I picked up my pre-heated glass before putting it into the melted micro-wax. Let me just say it was hot and I dropped it on the floor.

No, seriously, this is 'good stuff', I tried the same thing a year ago with some kind of air-bags that came as packing material with a printer. It was too grainy so I dropped the idea. (I used it as GG for my MF rollei photo camera though)
How's the grain (in uncompressed footage)? From the first images it looks like the grain I get with Paraffin wax. Other images look even better.
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Old January 21st, 2006, 03:11 PM   #58
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Test bag footage, likes and dislikes

Well, here are some screengrabs from some test footage of the bag with my Letus' focusing screen distance corrected and the condenser distance corrected as well:

http://www.frozenphoenixproductions....etusTest1a.bmp
http://www.frozenphoenixproductions....etusTest2a.bmp
http://www.frozenphoenixproductions....etusTest3a.bmp

Here's the issue: This new thin-film stuff produces some of the most sharp, bright images I've ever seen from any of my adapters, but the bokeh is absolutely horrendous, and I don't know if it's my condenser distance or not but I'm getting massive chroma separation. The bag doesn't seem to handle "too much light" well. I guess there'll always be trade-offs...
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Old January 21st, 2006, 03:18 PM   #59
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I'd try a gray filter. Stopping down the lens (on either one) will only increase the vignetting. A central grad filter like Dan suggested would be even better.
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Old January 21st, 2006, 06:41 PM   #60
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When you talk about Bokeh, what exactly do you mean? The term Bokeh, as I have known, refers to out of focus blooming of bright areas. I have even makde software to simulate this bokeh blooming (circle of confusion type) on stills and video.

Do you have examples of the type of Bokeh you do like as compared to the thin-film plastic bokeh we are getting?

Here is my latest test. Still using my static viewer adapter, which is not great.

http://eccentricgenius.com/AdapterTest31_W.wmv
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