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Old April 11th, 2006, 02:07 AM   #1
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letus35 flip enhanced

Had an indy film shoot this weekend. It was a total disaster. Director was a combination of inept and outspoken.

Anyways, i did the shoot using my fx1 and a letus35 flip enhanced. I dont think i did either one justice, but i was really thrilled with the look of the outcome. Here are some grabs i did, just random frames i was showing a friend via ichat by copying from quicktime and pasting into ichat. No idea what kinda compression that yields, but it is what it is.

So, i'm thrilled with the look of the footage. Very non-video. I think with some image processing and/or color it could look quite cool. But you guys spend way more time looking at DOF adapters. Aside from my questionable focus, anything worthy of note?

captured as DV footage:
http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab0.jpeg
http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab1.jpeg
http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab2.jpeg
http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab3.jpeg

captured as HDV footage:
http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab4.jpeg
http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab5.jpeg
http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab6.jpeg

cheers!

Oh, the other thing i forgot to mention: The fx1 doesnt show you the complete overscan. The black bar on the sides was not visible on the lcd screen or viewfinder. I think the z1u gives you an "underscan" (overscan?) option for the screen.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 08:09 AM   #2
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Images seem nice. It's very hard to say anything hurtful. Only on HD images there is visible little bit darker left edge: http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab5.jpeg . Is it edge falloff there or something occasional.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 09:19 AM   #3
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Very nice. What lenses did you use with the FX1 and the Letus? I've got the SG35 Pro on order, and I can't wait to test it with my FX1.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 09:47 AM   #4
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I love the 'look' of the footage, country setting with the car and costumes to boot! The letus footage looks a little soft though, but maybe it is the screen caps.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 07:27 PM   #5
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really nice looking.. what CC did you do as well?
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Old April 11th, 2006, 10:05 PM   #6
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Really nice! I was really interested in what look the fx1 + flip would produce. Great stuff.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:21 AM   #7
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How did you turn off the Image Stabilization? and the zoom function so you can only zoom from the ring
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Old April 12th, 2006, 04:31 AM   #8
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Images seem nice. It's very hard to say anything hurtful. Only on HD images there is visible little bit darker left edge: http://www.regina.com/grabs/grab5.jpeg . Is it edge falloff there or something occasional.
The screen on the fx1 doesnt let you see the full overscan. As a result, almost all my shots have some of the edges of the mirror in frame. the mirror is vibrating, so it makes it a dark edge. I should have zoomed in further, so thats my fault, not the adapter.

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Very nice. What lenses did you use with the FX1 and the Letus? I've got the SG35 Pro on order, and I can't wait to test it with my FX1.
Those shots are all taken with an old canon FD 50mm 1.4. (paid about $30US for it... i think it was a bargain.)

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I love the 'look' of the footage, country setting with the car and costumes to boot! The letus footage looks a little soft though, but maybe it is the screen caps.
The adapter might be a tiny bit soft, but i really think that i'm at fault for most of it. The wide HDV shot is clearly focused too far in front of the fence. The shot from the front of the car is focused in front of the car, and the shot looking in the car window the focus is just behind the face. Its really really hard to see through the viewfinder or lcd... I wonder if any HDV lcd monitors exist yet. That and in addition to focusing the canon lens, i bumped the manual focus a few times and blurred the macro (relay) lens. That one is harder to notice and fix, since you really need to turn off the vibrator and focus on the glass grain.

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really nice looking.. what CC did you do as well?
Not sure what you are asking. If you are asking about color correction, there is none. Those are frames i copied in quicktime player straight from the raw capture source. If you are asking about credit card? i used visa. hehe.

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Really nice! I was really interested in what look the fx1 + flip would produce. Great stuff.
Thanks! I was really happy. It certainly complicates shooting. The camera is really heavy and challenging to focus, but i think the look is worth it. I bought a set of cavision 15mm rails and that really made the whole setup feel more stable (and look cooler)

For the fx1 users, i went ahead and used cineframe 25 (i have the pal version). I know it kills some of the resolution, but i think it actually does a pretty decent job of the deinterlacing... or whatever it does.

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How did you turn off the Image Stabilization? and the zoom function so you can only zoom from the ring
I turned off image stabilization in the camera menu. and i switched the button between rocker and ring so i could zoom from the ring. in retrospect i should have left it on rocker, because i bumped the zoom ring several times (as seen) and screwed up the framing in the letus. Its very rare i accidently hit the rocker arm, but since you can move the ring while the camera is off and still change the zoom, i gotta watch out for that.

I think i'm going to print out a page of crossed lines of varying thicknesses and i'll have the actors hold it up for me to focus to. I'm not sure if that will help, but i found it really hard to find focus otherwise.

Thanks everybody for looking. I really like discussing this stuff. I'm more interested in learning how to shoot well than compare adapters, but at its best i think the letus35 flip enhanced looks really really good. I dunno if it holds up to the g35, but it looks to me like a good bbc film... and being able to shoot that on dv tapes really makes me smile.

cheers! and ask anything you can think of!

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Old April 13th, 2006, 11:02 AM   #9
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Hey, i grabbed some more frames, and captured a couple dv files and one hdv file if anybody wants to see. The movie clips are really short, just there to get a sense of how the footage looks in motion. Again, there is no color correct or image modification at all. I just trimmed the in/out points of the raw source in quicktime player and saved.

The DV size clips/stills are captured as regular dv using the fx1's built in "play back as dv" function.

Many of these are the old frame grabs, (sorry) but some are new:

Dv stills:
http://5501.com/adapter/dv1.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/dv2.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/dv3.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/dv4.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/dv5.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/dv6.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/dv7.jpeg

Dv Movies:
http://5501.com/adapter/TRbehindtree.mov
http://5501.com/adapter/peterincarclip.mov

HDV Stills:
http://5501.com/adapter/hdv1.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/hdv2.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/hdv3.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/hdv4.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/hdv5.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/hdv6.jpeg
http://5501.com/adapter/hdv7.jpeg

HDV Movie:
http://5501.com/adapter/cardriveup.mov

Once again, you can see how i didnt zoom in far enough and left black frames on the sides of the screen. doh!

cheers!

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Old April 13th, 2006, 08:52 PM   #10
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Looks very cool. Good job. We're using the same setup for an indoor shoot. Hope is goes well. I like the Maori tatoos on your actor. Is the film set in New Zealand?
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Old April 13th, 2006, 09:12 PM   #11
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Looks very cool. Good job. We're using the same setup for an indoor shoot. Hope is goes well. I like the Maori tatoos on your actor. Is the film set in New Zealand?
Let me know how it goes indoors. I'm still trying to work out the best way to light for the adapter.

Yeah, its set in New Zealand. Part of the piece is supposed to take place in the 20s at a rabbiters hut that turns out to be about a mile from our house. Convenient for shooting! The Maori actor doesnt have a moku, so an adviser was supposed to show up and paint a traditional one. When he didnt show, the actor just whipped out a magic marker and drew on a moku of his own design. I thought it looked really nice considering.

Looking back i realize i went nuts with DOF. It looked cool in the viewfinder, but its silly having SUCH narrow DOF for setups like this. I'll try again at f4 or something.

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Old April 14th, 2006, 12:12 AM   #12
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Look closely at the hdv1.jpg. You will notice the grain. Although the sharpness of the LETUS35 is quite OK with the film transfer even when projected to a big screen this grain reproduce a somewhat dirty look. Any observations ?
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Old April 14th, 2006, 08:04 PM   #13
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Thanks for the new snaps. They look really great. There's a lot of negative stuff said about cf25 mode on the fx1, but these stills look pretty good considering that you didn't have to do cc in post.

Right now my setup is a pd-170 with letus35a, so your setup is sort of the next bump up from what I have. I just shot a music video with the letus35a and the results were great, but I'm excited about the possibilities of the fx1+letus flip enhanced.

In hdv1 and hdv2, there are some black spots off the the left... was that debris inside the letus flip? Do you find that the flip is difficult to keep clean? I find that the letus35a should be hit with compressed air pretty often.

Thanks again for the great snaps. Cheers!

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Old May 1st, 2006, 02:17 PM   #14
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how many stops of light did it cut?
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 12:07 AM   #15
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Stupid question but can you zoom all the way through on this thing? Or do you have to be on wide? Love the imagery this thing produces and would love to add it to my arsenal.

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