movies with cinemek G35, feedback please. at DVinfo.net

Koa Miyamoto · May 16th, 2006, 08:01 PM

Hi, I posted my movies over in dv for masses but I barely got a response. I thought more people would be interested in 35mm adapter footage...:(
Anyway, here they are for what it's worth.

First is a short black comedy about a man contemplating suicide called "Perfect Day."
http://www.funkalicious.net/perfectday/perfectday.mov

The second is a parody music video of James Blunt-this is self explanatory. (we got a great response for this one, featured on vh1 best of the week blog)
http://blacklotuspro.trafikfilms.com.../emotional.mov

The third film is a noir style film called "Ginger" directed by myself.
http://www.trafikfilms.com/ginger/Ginger.mov

-Koa

Forrest Schultz · May 16th, 2006, 08:20 PM

Im downloading the james blunt one now. sounds funny.

alright, watched it. pretty funny. kinda sick, actually really sick. not something ill show other people for entertainment. haha

Wayne Kinney · May 17th, 2006, 03:49 AM

Just viewed the James Blunt video, funny stuff!

Yasser Kassana · May 17th, 2006, 04:24 AM

That James Blunt vid brilliant. Love the scene where he was masturbating. Ginger was excellent, love the colours.

Forrest Schultz · May 18th, 2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasser Kassana

Love the scene where he was masturbating.

....no comment... J/K =)

Rich Hibner · May 19th, 2006, 10:42 PM

what cam was ginger shot on?

Koa Miyamoto · May 20th, 2006, 09:31 AM

Hello,

Thank you very much for your comments! All the films were shot on an xl2, with the older 16xII lens(not the 20x). I'm still waiting for a relay lens, but it has done me lots of good:). So if you see a difference in image/color from film to film, this is just from color grading differences.

We just had our annual festival yesterday here at uc irvine, and 5 out of 6 films I dp'd for (G35&xl2) won awards including best overall. It also made my night when one of the judges told me she swore we shot on 35mm:)! Thank god for G35 I said. Sorry if the emotional video was offensive, but it does not even compare to what we are working on now...lol but of course as filmmakers I don't think we should worry too much about offending people.

Thanks, if anyone wants to share knowledge on camera settings, color grading and such, I would love to discuss...

-Koa

Yasser Kassana · May 23rd, 2006, 06:40 AM

Yes, ginger colour grading? Did you use FCP? What matrix did you use?

Thomas Richter · May 23rd, 2006, 02:16 PM

Very impressive work. The 35mm adapter complements the chosen look very well (for example Ginger - soft look, shallow dof, technicolor style CC looks combined with the Sin City look)

I think it is a prime example of how a 35mm adapter can be used to support the story rather than simply hiding the video look.

By the way, the "emotional" video was indeed very funny.

Koa Miyamoto · June 1st, 2006, 05:23 PM

Thanks Thomas, I appreciate the comments! As far as coloring, all I've been using is Graeme Nattress's plugs in FCP, the gfilm, and it's speedy and awesome-so many options. I have magic bullet but it just doesn't do it for me. I think he's with RED now and his plug is awesome, so I can't wait to see what he does for those guys. What do u mean by matrix? I don't know too much about tech terms...

but question, is it better to color on an uncompressed timeline? I always get some degradation when bouncing a file no matter what I try, and it get's so much worst when I try to make a dvd...

-Koa

Tim Johnson · June 2nd, 2006, 03:28 PM

i like the first one alot, its very true to life, even if theres seems to be some strange artifacts when i watch it - flickering of a cd if its on the adapter?

Koa Miyamoto · June 5th, 2006, 08:02 PM

Thanks Tim!

The artifacts should be from the compression. I encoded it in mpeg4 "low" quality, so I apologize for that. How do they get the apple trailers to look so good?? So if there is flickering, it can't be from the adapter-mine is a static version.

man, my small bandwidth is killing me...

Tim Johnson · June 6th, 2006, 12:19 PM

i think its about the codecs they use - mpeg is quite an old codec, so a newer one in theory would give better quality

i encoded a few vids in MP4 and i was quite happy with the quality,even at low bitrates

Zack Vohaska · June 14th, 2006, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa Miyamoto

Thanks Tim!

The artifacts should be from the compression. I encoded it in mpeg4 "low" quality, so I apologize for that. How do they get the apple trailers to look so good?? So if there is flickering, it can't be from the adapter-mine is a static version.

man, my small bandwidth is killing me...

Apple uses the H.264 CODEC to encode their movie trailers. I've been told that the CODEC was developed to distribute high definition footage at 720p, 1080p, or 1080i over the internet at reasonable download sizes. The CODEC is a huge leap from Sorenson 3 (their are some minor bugs with it, however). The big plus to it is that you can have a larger movie file and better audio quality at the fraction of the file size of other compressors. The H.264 can convert audio to the AAC file extension -- the official iTunes music format -- during compression to have superior audio.

And you know what the most amazing part of it is? You can encode your files with the H.264 CODEC for just $30 if you upgrade your software to QuickTime Pro 7. I use the Canon XL2, and even though it is a SD camera, the web version of my footage look spectacular. I'd post some stuff if my website bandwidth wasn't so low. ;)

Kurt August · June 14th, 2006, 04:49 PM

Yes. And if you have too much spare time, encode it on a shot-to-shot basis and glue it together.

May 16th, 2006, 08:01 PM	#1
Koa Miyamoto New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	movies with cinemek G35, feedback please. Hi, I posted my movies over in dv for masses but I barely got a response. I thought more people would be interested in 35mm adapter footage...:( Anyway, here they are for what it's worth. First is a short black comedy about a man contemplating suicide called "Perfect Day." http://www.funkalicious.net/perfectday/perfectday.mov The second is a parody music video of James Blunt-this is self explanatory. (we got a great response for this one, featured on vh1 best of the week blog) http://blacklotuspro.trafikfilms.com.../emotional.mov The third film is a noir style film called "Ginger" directed by myself. http://www.trafikfilms.com/ginger/Ginger.mov -Koa __________________ -Koa M. Stone www.koamstone.com RED 359

May 17th, 2006, 03:49 AM	#3
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Just viewed the James Blunt video, funny stuff! __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

May 20th, 2006, 09:31 AM	#7
Koa Miyamoto New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	Hello, Thank you very much for your comments! All the films were shot on an xl2, with the older 16xII lens(not the 20x). I'm still waiting for a relay lens, but it has done me lots of good:). So if you see a difference in image/color from film to film, this is just from color grading differences. We just had our annual festival yesterday here at uc irvine, and 5 out of 6 films I dp'd for (G35&xl2) won awards including best overall. It also made my night when one of the judges told me she swore we shot on 35mm:)! Thank god for G35 I said. Sorry if the emotional video was offensive, but it does not even compare to what we are working on now...lol but of course as filmmakers I don't think we should worry too much about offending people. Thanks, if anyone wants to share knowledge on camera settings, color grading and such, I would love to discuss... -Koa __________________ -Koa M. Stone www.koamstone.com RED 359

June 1st, 2006, 05:23 PM	#10
Koa Miyamoto New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	Thanks Thomas, I appreciate the comments! As far as coloring, all I've been using is Graeme Nattress's plugs in FCP, the gfilm, and it's speedy and awesome-so many options. I have magic bullet but it just doesn't do it for me. I think he's with RED now and his plug is awesome, so I can't wait to see what he does for those guys. What do u mean by matrix? I don't know too much about tech terms... but question, is it better to color on an uncompressed timeline? I always get some degradation when bouncing a file no matter what I try, and it get's so much worst when I try to make a dvd... -Koa __________________ -Koa M. Stone www.koamstone.com RED 359

June 5th, 2006, 08:02 PM	#12
Koa Miyamoto New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	Thanks Tim! The artifacts should be from the compression. I encoded it in mpeg4 "low" quality, so I apologize for that. How do they get the apple trailers to look so good?? So if there is flickering, it can't be from the adapter-mine is a static version. man, my small bandwidth is killing me... __________________ -Koa M. Stone www.koamstone.com RED 359

May 16th, 2006, 08:20 PM	#2
Forrest Schultz Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atwater, CA Posts: 246	Im downloading the james blunt one now. sounds funny. alright, watched it. pretty funny. kinda sick, actually really sick. not something ill show other people for entertainment. haha

May 17th, 2006, 04:24 AM	#4
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	That James Blunt vid brilliant. Love the scene where he was masturbating. Ginger was excellent, love the colours.

May 19th, 2006, 10:42 PM	#6
Rich Hibner Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 218 Images: 1	what cam was ginger shot on?

May 23rd, 2006, 06:40 AM	#8
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	Yes, ginger colour grading? Did you use FCP? What matrix did you use?

May 23rd, 2006, 02:16 PM	#9
Thomas Richter Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 181	Very impressive work. The 35mm adapter complements the chosen look very well (for example Ginger - soft look, shallow dof, technicolor style CC looks combined with the Sin City look) I think it is a prime example of how a 35mm adapter can be used to support the story rather than simply hiding the video look. By the way, the "emotional" video was indeed very funny.

June 2nd, 2006, 03:28 PM	#11
Tim Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 101	i like the first one alot, its very true to life, even if theres seems to be some strange artifacts when i watch it - flickering of a cd if its on the adapter?

June 6th, 2006, 12:19 PM	#13
Tim Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 101	i think its about the codecs they use - mpeg is quite an old codec, so a newer one in theory would give better quality i encoded a few vids in MP4 and i was quite happy with the quality,even at low bitrates

June 14th, 2006, 04:49 PM	#15
Kurt August Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 94	Yes. And if you have too much spare time, encode it on a shot-to-shot basis and glue it together.