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Craig Chartier · June 2nd, 2006, 10:34 PM

Can someome fill me in on the mini35 and certain updates or current models needed to cover the xlH1??? heard there is a model upgrade to be released for this camera.. any idea??

Chris Hurd · June 3rd, 2006, 01:18 AM

Hi Craig, when I spoke to ZGC (our site sponsor and the U.S. distributor on the Mini35, but you already knew that) back in April at NAB, they told me that the current 400-series Mini35 for the XL2 is the same one for the XL H1. If that changes anytime soon, you can bet I'll announce it here.

So, is GEAR finally adding a Mini35 to the Austin Arsenel? Inquiring minds want to know!

Craig Chartier · June 10th, 2006, 08:48 PM

well,, as you know its always a matter of liability with such an item at an equipment provider. Most users do not have enough- if any- insurance coverage to cover checking out this item plus a set of primes and all of the other support. However, We are seriously looking at this item due to the greater amount of cameras that can now mount with the 400 series unit. We did just get in our new steadicam flyer unit.,, so as always there are more toys than anyone can afford. Thanks for the info.

Elmar Tewes · June 11th, 2006, 09:24 AM

hmmmm... the series 300 fits the XL-2 too, someone knows if series 300 works with XLH1 too ?

Eric MacIver · June 11th, 2006, 08:21 PM

The XL2 and XL-H1 are the same size, so it SHOULD fit, but I'm not sure if the spinning glass will work as well with the high def camera.

Martin Costa · June 12th, 2006, 02:21 AM

I've got a 300 i'll dust it off and let you know if the glass is a problem.

Asa Phelps · June 14th, 2006, 04:18 AM

I've tested with my XL-H1, and it doesn't work as well as with my XL2. Images a lot too soft and spinning GG is visible on white or clear surfaces also with -3 gain, Nikon at F 1,4, noise reduction on, sharpness -9.
Is for that reason that I'm selling the unit.

Levan Bakhia · July 30th, 2006, 09:47 AM

I have XL H1 and mini35. I use it all the time, and once you get used to it and gain experience you picture gets cleaner and cleaner from the ground glass dirt, but I have noticed the following. I use canon with SDI out and mostly record the material strait to a computer either in uncompressed 8 bit file format or DVCPRO HD, this way it is cleaner, but sometimes I get to locations where it is too much trouble to take the computer and the raind and the monitor with me, so I record directly to tape, this way the ground glass is more visible, I guess this is because of the HDV compression.

So, if you think you will be able to record to minimum DVCPRO HD then I would recommend it to you, but other than that you will not be very clean in the image.

I hope this helps, and I hope this was not a late post :*)

Craig Chartier · August 1st, 2006, 11:56 AM

Its never to late to pass on information. Thanks for the tip on recording from the SDI port. I believe this is the better and future-proof method of using this camera.

Oleg Kalyan · April 10th, 2007, 09:43 PM

That was a first test with Canon H1 and mini35, Nikon 50 and 85 mm lens.
www.olegkalyan.ru

John Benton · April 11th, 2007, 07:45 AM

Very Nice Oleg,
I love shooting with the H1 and a 35mm (I use the Letus which is I think made in the Image of the Mini)
and yes it's hard to focus, even with a Marshal HD monitor.
J

Oleg Kalyan · April 11th, 2007, 08:59 AM

John, thank you, focus can be a problem, if a person moves his head back a forth for example( now I realise how stationary a face shold be, to shoot on 85mm or longer lens, to be in perfect focus, unless doing a planned rack focus. I also got Nikon 35mm 1.4 lens, will use it this weekend, will post results...Regards

June 2nd, 2006, 10:34 PM	#1
Craig Chartier DVi Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 374	mini35 and XLH1 Can someome fill me in on the mini35 and certain updates or current models needed to cover the xlH1??? heard there is a model upgrade to be released for this camera.. any idea??

June 3rd, 2006, 01:18 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Hi Craig, when I spoke to ZGC (our site sponsor and the U.S. distributor on the Mini35, but you already knew that) back in April at NAB, they told me that the current 400-series Mini35 for the XL2 is the same one for the XL H1. If that changes anytime soon, you can bet I'll announce it here. So, is GEAR finally adding a Mini35 to the Austin Arsenel? Inquiring minds want to know! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 11th, 2006, 08:21 PM	#5
Eric MacIver Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 121	The XL2 and XL-H1 are the same size, so it SHOULD fit, but I'm not sure if the spinning glass will work as well with the high def camera. __________________ http://www.IndieRentals.com RED Rentals, Camera, Grip, Lighting, Sound, Post and More. http://www.madmojo.com Production blog.

July 30th, 2006, 09:47 AM	#8
Levan Bakhia Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	I have XL H1 and mini35. I use it all the time, and once you get used to it and gain experience you picture gets cleaner and cleaner from the ground glass dirt, but I have noticed the following. I use canon with SDI out and mostly record the material strait to a computer either in uncompressed 8 bit file format or DVCPRO HD, this way it is cleaner, but sometimes I get to locations where it is too much trouble to take the computer and the raind and the monitor with me, so I record directly to tape, this way the ground glass is more visible, I guess this is because of the HDV compression. So, if you think you will be able to record to minimum DVCPRO HD then I would recommend it to you, but other than that you will not be very clean in the image. I hope this helps, and I hope this was not a late post :*) __________________ ____________ www.sarke.ge ---------------- ____________

April 10th, 2007, 09:43 PM	#10
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Canon H1 and mini35 test 50 and 85 mm lens That was a first test with Canon H1 and mini35, Nikon 50 and 85 mm lens. www.olegkalyan.ru

June 10th, 2006, 08:48 PM	#3
Craig Chartier DVi Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 374	well,, as you know its always a matter of liability with such an item at an equipment provider. Most users do not have enough- if any- insurance coverage to cover checking out this item plus a set of primes and all of the other support. However, We are seriously looking at this item due to the greater amount of cameras that can now mount with the 400 series unit. We did just get in our new steadicam flyer unit.,, so as always there are more toys than anyone can afford. Thanks for the info.

June 11th, 2006, 09:24 AM	#4
Elmar Tewes Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Frankfurt Germany Posts: 104	hmmmm... the series 300 fits the XL-2 too, someone knows if series 300 works with XLH1 too ?

June 12th, 2006, 02:21 AM	#6
Martin Costa Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 76 Images: 2	I've got a 300 i'll dust it off and let you know if the glass is a problem.

June 14th, 2006, 04:18 AM	#7
Asa Phelps New Boot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Venice, Italy Posts: 23	I've tested with my XL-H1, and it doesn't work as well as with my XL2. Images a lot too soft and spinning GG is visible on white or clear surfaces also with -3 gain, Nikon at F 1,4, noise reduction on, sharpness -9. Is for that reason that I'm selling the unit.

August 1st, 2006, 11:56 AM	#9
Craig Chartier DVi Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 374	Its never to late to pass on information. Thanks for the tip on recording from the SDI port. I believe this is the better and future-proof method of using this camera.

April 11th, 2007, 07:45 AM	#11
John Benton Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 658	Very Nice Oleg, I love shooting with the H1 and a 35mm (I use the Letus which is I think made in the Image of the Mini) and yes it's hard to focus, even with a Marshal HD monitor. J

April 11th, 2007, 08:59 AM	#12
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	John, thank you, focus can be a problem, if a person moves his head back a forth for example( now I realise how stationary a face shold be, to shoot on 85mm or longer lens, to be in perfect focus, unless doing a planned rack focus. I also got Nikon 35mm 1.4 lens, will use it this weekend, will post results...Regards