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Old November 9th, 2006, 07:02 PM   #1
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HVX200 + SGpro r2 + Zeiss/Nikon

Hello people,

my hvx is very happy the last few days :) I have purchased an Sgpro r2 and it's one of the best things i've done! I have made a quick film to test the Sgpro with my equipment. I want to share this film with you to tell me your thoughts. I used Macro Extension Tubes in some shots of this film to get the close up photography. This give very shallow DOF. Yet i was suprised at how sharp the results were. One other thing that i want to tell is that i add some vignetting in post, something that Sgpro doesn't produce. To see this thing, i'll post some uncce'd full frame grabs too.


Well, film was done with:

- hvx200e
- sgpro r2
- lenses: Carl Zeiss : Planar T* 50mm f1.4 / 85mm f1.4
Nikon: 35mm f1.4 / 85mm f1.4
- some extension tubes for macro

As for lighting, unfortunately, i have only room light, a desk light and the light that comes from a TV :D

the clip is here:

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/blue-theodoroschliapas.mov

the full frame uncce'd grabs:
http://www.sgpro.co.uk/bluegrab1.jpg
http://www.sgpro.co.uk/bluegrab2.jpg
http://www.sgpro.co.uk/bluegrab3.jpg
http://www.sgpro.co.uk/bluegrab4.jpg

I would love your thoughts.

Thank you,
theodoros
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Old November 9th, 2006, 09:57 PM   #2
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The stills look amazing. Great idea to shoot something that has alot of detail.
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Old November 10th, 2006, 06:15 AM   #3
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really very nice.

Did you really only use ambient light? Any gain? I didn't think the HVX was that good in low light, and with the SGPro added with Lens...

How much colouring was done in post?

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Old November 10th, 2006, 09:56 AM   #4
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Wow, what can I say.
I think I`ll sell my F1.2 and F1.4 normal primes to get that Zess now.
I`ve always wondered how 250lpm of resolving power would affect the dof adaptor video as even real motion picture lenses are rated at somewhere 60-100lpm.

Cheers,
T
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Old November 10th, 2006, 10:48 AM   #5
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Thanks a lot guys for your replies.

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really very nice.

Did you really only use ambient light? Any gain? I didn't think the HVX was that good in low light, and with the SGPro added with Lens...

How much colouring was done in post?

phil
I've taken two photos of my lighting setup in this video:

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/560/light1.jpg
http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/560/light2.jpg

Spot lights are 50w each and the other light is 40w.

My hvx gain is always at 0. It was difficult to believe even for me that i've made this film with only these lights and i've had these results.

As for colouring, i cce'd a lot. You can see the uncce'd grabs to see the real colour.
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Old November 10th, 2006, 10:53 AM   #6
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I have an m2 and there is no way I can shoot what you did on my z1 with no gain. Even though I understand the z1 is slightly better in low light. Is the SGpro better in low light than the m2?

I have nikon 50mm f1.2

how do you compare the zeiss to the nikon. What benifits do you have?
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Old November 10th, 2006, 11:24 AM   #7
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I have an m2 and there is no way I can shoot what you did on my z1 with no gain. Even though I understand the z1 is slightly better in low light. Is the SGpro better in low light than the m2?

I have nikon 50mm f1.2

how do you compare the zeiss to the nikon. What benifits do you have?
I have never used an m2, so i can't tell, but i think sgpro does the job great at this point.

Next days i'll plan to make a lense test. Same shots with same settings and different lenses. We'll see the diferences :)
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Old November 10th, 2006, 10:16 PM   #8
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The clip looks awesome T. Your editing skills are not too shabby either :-)
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Old November 11th, 2006, 04:21 AM   #9
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Dennis, thank you very much!
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Old November 11th, 2006, 04:50 AM   #10
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Very professionally looking clip, great shots and very good idea to post the original jpgs. They rock (in terms of sharpness and looks).

Congrats for building such a well working setup.

All the best,

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Old November 11th, 2006, 06:11 AM   #11
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Very professionally looking clip, great shots and very good idea to post the original jpgs. They rock (in terms of sharpness and looks).

Congrats for building such a well working setup.

All the best,

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Thanks a lot Tom for your kind words. Much appreciated.
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Old November 11th, 2006, 04:05 PM   #12
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Wow, what can I say.
I think I`ll sell my F1.2 and F1.4 normal primes to get that Zess now.
I`ve always wondered how 250lpm of resolving power would affect the dof adaptor video as even real motion picture lenses are rated at somewhere 60-100lpm.

Cheers,
T
What Zeiss is 250lp/mm?
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Old November 12th, 2006, 08:45 AM   #13
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Apparently the Planar T* 1,4/50 ZF resolves 320 lp/mm in the aperture range from f/5.6 to f/2.8, and 250 lp/mm at f/2 as stated in Zeiss`s official documentation.

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Old November 12th, 2006, 05:22 PM   #14
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What export settings did you use to get such a sharp picture on the quicktime file?

I have put a little short that I knocked together this afternoon on my webpage but it isn't anywhere near as crisp as yours, but on the HD monitor in HDV it is very very sharp

thanks

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Old November 13th, 2006, 04:27 AM   #15
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What export settings did you use to get such a sharp picture on the quicktime file?

I have put a little short that I knocked together this afternoon on my webpage but it isn't anywhere near as crisp as yours, but on the HD monitor in HDV it is very very sharp

thanks

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I have just used H264, 25fps, High quality compressor (not best), multipass encoding, automatic data rate.
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