View Full Version : Nikon 5000 w/video at $500plus


Kurth Bousman
February 20th, 2009, 02:43 PM
ok - lets' see - this is area 51 right ? just wanted to make sure !

Nikon Rumors (http://nikonrumors.com/)... ...mor-from-korea-entry-level-nikon-d5000-pma.aspx

John Wiley
February 21st, 2009, 01:58 AM
The link mentions nothing about the rumored new cam having a D-movie mode. And if it did, I wouldn't think it's implementation would be any better than that on the D90 - not at that price.

Still, we can dream, can't we?

Kurth Bousman
February 25th, 2009, 11:29 AM
Nikon rumors is saying 90% chance of a d5000 and they also have a feature set prediction and they say it's from a source that's NEVER been wrong

Nikon D5000 @ PMA | Nikon Rumors (http://nikonrumors.com/2009/02/25/nikon-d5000-pma.aspx)

Heath McKnight
March 4th, 2009, 11:50 AM
I hear nothing is going to be announced, Nikon DSLR-wise...

Nikon’s PMA press release | Nikon Rumors (http://nikonrumors.com/2009/03/03/nikons-pma-press-release.aspx)

heath

Heath McKnight
March 14th, 2009, 06:28 AM
New rumor: like Canon's rumored late March 2009 Rebel announcement, perhaps Nikon has one, too?

Greetings?PIE 2009 Theme | Photo Imaging Expo 2009 (http://www.photoimagingexpo.com/01_01.html)

Hat tip: Ken Rockwell (KenRockwell.com (http://www.kenrockwell.com))

Also, what's this about a Nikon D400 book (like the D40/D40x instructional books)?

Nikon D400 book | Nikon Rumors (http://nikonrumors.com/2009/03/12/nikon-d400-book-on-japanese-site.aspx)
More digging on the Nikon D400 book | Nikon Rumors (http://nikonrumors.com/2009/03/12/more-digging-on-the-nikon-d400-book.aspx)

Finally, a Nikon marketing exec goes on the record saying the D40 follow-up is under development:

Nikon Interview | Nikon Rumors (http://nikonrumors.com/2009/03/13/nikon-interview.aspx)

heath

Kurth Bousman
March 14th, 2009, 11:20 AM
we all know it's coming , they're all coming sooner or later , it's just a matter of when . The cool thing to me is that it more or less appears that dslrs have hit their ceiling in terms of useful resolution and it appears the next turf war will be over video capabilities , which most of us find very useful . The strange thing is if you go to dpreview , most of the still photographer posters are entrenched and afraid or indifferent to the new capability , and see no benefits . Photographers are generally a conservative group and most didn't like thru the lens metering either !

Heath McKnight
March 14th, 2009, 11:36 AM
I'm a video/digital film guy, and I don't see anything too worthwhile in DSLRs with video capabilities. Like I've said before, it's like putting in photo capabilities in some of the past lower cost pro cameras, like the XL1, etc. If the quality gets really good, then I'll jump onboard, because you obviously can't beat a DSLR's selection of lenses.

Besides, I'd like to see more than just resolution in the next wave of DSLRs... I want to see more light sensitivity, less noise, and more. I'm still just an amateur photographer, but I would love to have more options there. Resolution is important, but it's not the most important thing.

Marketing digital still cameras' resolution is like PC manufacturers pushing processor speeds in the late 1990s/early 2000s. There's more to it than just that.

Heath

Robert Lane
March 14th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Spot-on, Heath.

If you really want to get a handle on how good - or not - any current DSLR or even pocket digi-cam is capable of capturing light and color, check out the DXOmark.com website. There's much more to digital capture than how many pixels are crammed into the chip, such as signal-to-noise, dynamic range (you'll be surprised how narrow the new Canon 5DMkII fares in this category) grey capture and of course color gamut.

What's striking to me - and many other pros - is that the current "king of the hill" with respect to resolution, sharpness and even dynamic range is the Nikon D3X (see the comparisons on DXOmark.com). However at $8k for body only this overpriced beast *still* can't touch the dynamic range or color abilities of even Kodak Gold 100.

What's even more befuddling is that some of the newer bodies are actually performing slightly worse than their predecessors. For example: The Canon 50D has slightly more noise and is less sharp than the 40D. More pixels, yes but not better imagery. And some are surmising that we're reaching - if not already passed - the limit of how many pixels can be crammed into such a small space before noise and sharpness begin to actually degrade instead of improve. (see DPreview.com)

Nobody I know will throw down $8k the D3X, nor do I forsee too many putting precious cash into whatever Canon replaces the 1DsMkIII with in the future. Why? Because more pixels aren't what we need, what's needed is more color and a LOT more dynamic range. Fix that and we'll truly have films replacement.

Heath McKnight
March 15th, 2009, 07:53 AM
Robert,

I did an article for Videomaker a while ago about how small chips with a lot of pixels (say 1/3" video camera with 1.5 million pixels) has problems vs. a 2/3" video camera chip with around 350,000 pixels.

Same thing happens with still cameras. Full-frame is where it's at. I'm not ready to move up to that yet, but when I am, I may get the Nikon D700.

Heath

Kurth Bousman
March 15th, 2009, 06:53 PM
by then it might be the d700x with movie capture

Heath McKnight
March 15th, 2009, 06:55 PM
Kurth,

Do you like video in DSLRs?

Heath

Kurth Bousman
March 15th, 2009, 08:08 PM
absolutely - the gh1 is almost perfect - just missing powerzoom - if the images are good enough , it will hold me over until the fl scarlets are shipping ! I'm more interested in the 720/60p . And I might consider a new rebel body if they release it with video also since I already have a few EF-S and L lenses but that would be after the market has calmed and the price has dropped . One , the dof issue is easily solved w/o all of those extra and unwieldy adapters . Two , the ease of carrying one camera . Three , the lowlight capabilities are much improved over 1/3 sensors . Everybody has their reason why they like filmic images over video . To me , it's the short dof of larger sensors/filmsize that make an image seem more filmic . And to add , the gh1 isn't a dslr , along with the new samsung nx and hopefully a new olympus , it's a new concept which in a few years will probably include many new camera concepts . It's just got to drop the dslr-look and see what it can morph into , which will be fun to watch.cheers/k

Heath McKnight
March 23rd, 2009, 02:50 PM
Here's what happens when rumor sites get hoodwinked with faked HTML websites...

Nikonrumors.com posted an image purporting to be Nikon's site with the D400:

Nikon D400 is here! | Nikon Rumors (http://nikonrumors.com/2009/03/19/nikon-d400-is-here.aspx)

But it was Busted! Fake!

Busted | Nikon Rumors (http://nikonrumors.com/2009/03/21/busted.aspx)

heath

Kurth Bousman
March 23rd, 2009, 07:12 PM
seems I remember that fake page - and the first attention it drew was as a fake because , if my memory serves me well , it had a clerical error or something missing which alluded to its' inauthenticity - even life is a rumor - now they think it's all a big hologram - it's like asking "what's the world wide death rate ? " - obviously it's 100% ! And obviously Nikon will release the d400 ! - the only question is "when" ?

Heath McKnight
March 31st, 2009, 09:32 AM
April 14, 2009 is an Austrian Nikon PR show

heath

Paulo Teixeira
April 6th, 2009, 08:25 AM
Either this is proof of a new Nikon or someone must have modified one.
Nikon readies entry-level DSLR with articulating display for April 14th launch? (updated with spyshots!) (http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/06/nikon-readies-something-for-april-14th-launch/)

If true, than Nikon did learn that an articulating screen is a good marketing feature.