April 12th, 2010, 02:16 AM
Has anyone heard about this?
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April 12th, 2010, 02:16 AM
Has anyone heard about this?
April 14th, 2010, 08:44 PM
Yes, I just met Tim Dashwood at NAB and saw a demo. There is also a demo on stereo3dtoolbox web site. It is at beta level and will be released soon.
April 20th, 2010, 05:36 PM
Thanks, I can't see the demo on the site, do you have a link please?
April 20th, 2010, 05:59 PM
Download Demo (http://www.stereo3dtoolbox.com/)
The site includes the following information:
Thank you for your interest in the new versions of Stereo3D Toolbox. The response at NAB2010 was amazing and we are working hard to implement many new requests.
You can download the beta of the Stereo3D Toolbox v2.0 suite of plugins as well as "LE" by filling out the form below. These plugins are compatible with After Effects CS4 or CS5 and Final Cut Studio 2 or 3 on Mac OS X Leopard or Snow Leopard. Please send your feedback to firstname.lastname@example.org, especially if you think you have found a bug. Please include as much information as possible about your hardware configuration and software versions.
Stereo3D Toolbox LE will be released for purchase for $99 by April 25th. Stereo3D Toolbox v2.0 will be available as soon as this beta phase is complete.
You can download and install demo versions of Stereo 3D Toolbox V2 and LE by filling out the following form.
April 21st, 2010, 03:04 AM
So what is the difference between the current version and version 2?
April 21st, 2010, 12:23 PM
Actually there are a lot of improvements and enhancements, such as keystoning correction, coarse and fine slider adjustments, sub-pixel adjustments, etc. I don't know that there is a specific document listing the improvements. It maybe best to download the demo version and see it.
April 21st, 2010, 02:29 PM
I'm sorry I've been off the grid for so many days. The response at NAB was overwhelming and I'll probably still be responding to requests for another two weeks.
We have two new products, Stereo3D Toolbox LE and Stereo3D Toolbox v2.0 suite. We are also working on some other applications that we previewed at NAB. More on those later.
In the meantime here are some of the details of the new plugins (all subject to change during the beta testing phase):
Stereo3D Toolbox™ LE (single plug-in filter designed for beginners & hobbyists)
Available Soon for $99
input from L/R image wells or side by side format repair vertical, zoom and rotational disparity with "ping-pong" sliders
adjust and keyframe convergence ”Autoscale” automatically scales/crops to clean edges output as red/cyan anaglyph or side-by-side for YouTube3D
Stereo3D Toolbox™ v2 (full suite of plug-in filters & generators)
Public Beta available for download from stereo3Dtoolbox.com (http://www.stereo3dtoolbox.com)
Price still TBD.
Included plug-in filters & generators for FCP, Motion & After Effects:
Stereo3D Geometry rewritten code to be much faster than v1! repair vertical, zoom, rotational and keystone disparity individually adjust left and right eye x/y/z geometry input and demux interleaved, side by side or over/under formats or individual L/R accepts 2D input for 3D placement Flip & Flop Left and/or Right Outputs Side by Side, Over/Under, Row Interleaved, Column Interleaved, Checkerboard or Anaglyph Fully adjustable anaglyph output includes red/cyan, blue/amber & green/magenta Difference mode and superimpose with adjustable opacity for disparity correction Solo left or right corrected output Globally set output mode Coarse and fine control of convergence and y-disparity Sub-pixel accuracy & splits fields before squeezing to over/under input sliders in scalable % (for use with low-res offline proxies) Master reframe controls (x,y,rotation & scale) option to automatically scale and crop to clean edges after adjustments are made save master user presets or just disparity corrections(ie. different presets for different sets of lenses or S3D rigs) supports XML export to Stereo3D XML Translator app
Stereo3D Text Generator place 2D text in 3D space -suitable for S3D subtitles in 3D space select any font or size custom color fill and drop shadow Outputs Side by Side, Over/Under, Row Interleaved, Column Interleaved, Checkerboard or Anaglyph Solo left or right corrected output Globally set output mode
Stereo3D Parallax Guides Generator set target display size (horizontal or diagonal) and resolution set native parallax or custom parallax % (0.1% to 10%) draws maximum parallax/divergence guides based on display size customize number of horizon lines displays Native Pixel Parallax and other stats
Stereo3D Image Balance adjust picture disparities between left and right eyes adjusts overall exposure, levels, shadows and highlights White Balance adjust adjust each eye individually
Stereo3D Floating Windows (Note: Beta1 does not contain the 4-point mask option) custom adjust left, right, top, bottom masks soft and smooth mask edges animate masks with keyframes
Stereo3D Monitor Output output to desktop "3D" monitors that don't support full HD presets for popular brands & models like Hyundai, iZ3D, Zalman, etc. uses Desktop Preview in Raw mode via graphics card's 2nd DVI port scale, crop or letterbox to monitor's native aspect ratio
Stereo3D Ghost Toaster™ (Note:This plugin is designed to reduce polarization cross-talk and not anaglyph crosstalk) generates crosstalk test pattern set crosstalk % with slider outputs "ghost toasted" side by side, over/under, interleaved or anaglyph
Stereo3D Clip Coupler™ simple filter for creating nested stereo pairs
April 22nd, 2010, 11:47 AM
I took a stereo clip of Tim and Stereo3D Toolbox Co. exhibit at NAB 2010, together with the new Panasonic 3D camcorder they had in their space. Some of you might be interested. After all, he is the moderator of this forum and father of one of the coolest 3D post-processing S/W around. I apologize for the poor quality. The lights, contrast and crowds were tough to deal with, it was like taking video in a cave without any light control. I recommend either dedicated 3D display or cross-eye viewing, but have included anaglyph as well. YouTube version is here: YouTube - CES 2010 Exhibits - Stereo3D Toolbox v2, Panasonic 3D Camcorder, etc - 3D HD Stereoscopic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcC0EnUps8) and Vimeo here: CES 2010 Exhibits - Stereo3D Toolbox v2, Panasonic 3D Camcorder, etc - Red & Cyan Anaglyph on Vimeo .
April 22nd, 2010, 01:33 PM
Thanks, Pavle. Speaking for myself, I certainly appreciate all those informative 3D videos you make.
April 22nd, 2010, 02:22 PM
Dekuji Adame. I appreciate the feedback. I figure that some people don't have the good fortune to attend these shows and it is interesting to get a different angle of view than what comes from the official media, so I am posting my amateurish videos to satisfy some interests. It is good to hear that it provides what it was intended to do. Thanks.
April 28th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Quick question to you guys. Is it o.k. to have both the original version of the Stereo3D Toolbox as well as the Version 2 co-resident with the Final Cut without any issues? Thanks.
April 28th, 2010, 05:27 PM
The v2.0 beta will not overwrite your existing v1.1 install. However FxFactory may give you a warning that both exist. They will show up in separate folders in your effects list.
When the upgrade is released and installed the original v1.1 will be made invisible but still exist for backwards compatibility with older projects. The current beta testers will then have to remove the beta version.
April 28th, 2010, 05:48 PM
Thank you Tim. I will download the beta tonight, it sounds too good not to try.
April 28th, 2010, 07:56 PM
Actually, Huston, I have a problem. The V2.0 DID replace the 1.1 and it will not load at all now. I get an error message that" The effects cannot be loaded ...". I am on FCE, maybe that's it. Can someone let me know how to get back? Thanks.
April 28th, 2010, 08:33 PM
One other person mentioned this and I'm trying to figure out why it is happening for some people. Did you run the FxFactory 2.1.5 installer before installing the beta?
If you have overwritten the old version the fix is to just rerun the FxFactory 2.1.5 installer and it will re-install v1.1
April 29th, 2010, 12:46 AM
Thanks Tim. Yes, I did update the FxFactory first, then ran the beta. That got the version 1.1 back, but I have now new problems with interlaced messages, asking me to set the field dominance to none, every time I move a clip, but even if I do so, I am getting the right side 2:1 vertically stretched. This is something totally new, for the version 1.1. Perhaps I need go back with the FxFactory as well. I should probably be dealing with these issues off-line, is there a way we can deal with these issues outside the forum? Thanks.
April 29th, 2010, 02:38 AM
I would rather sort these installer issues out in the forum so others don't have the same problems.
We added a field dominance warning system in v1.1 because so many people shooting with interlaced were having rendering issues in 1080i.
I assumed you had already been working with this version but it sounds like you had been working with a much earlier version, probably 1.0.4.
v1.1 was supposed to be 100% backwards compatible with v1.0.4 and earlier but there may have been other changes in the subsequent FxFactory installers that affected the compatibility.
I've attached the old old version for you to overwrite v1.1. This will return compatibility with your old sequences but you can keep FxFactory 2.1.5. I suggest that when it is time to start on new projects you re-install FxFactory 2.1.5. IF you want both version to co-exist you can change the file names of the FxPacks in Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Noise Industries.
April 29th, 2010, 07:49 PM
Thank you Tim. I am back in business. The version 1.04 is installed and works o.k. with the FxFactory 2.1.5. I will try the re-naming and installation after I finish some work.
May 13th, 2010, 06:35 AM
I have maybe a few questions and a few comments about Stereo Toolbox v2 beta.
1) Am I correct in assuming that your Coarse Convergence is working to pixel accuracy, but instead of quoting the actual pixel value moved you quote the value divided by 10? So if I wanted to make a 24 pixel convergence modification I would simply type into your Coarse Convergence a figure of 2.4? Out of interest how are you calculating your Fine Convergence value?
2) With the next version of the v2 beta will you be including (and to follow your terminology) Hard Floating Windows (without the vignette) that are positioned using pixel accurate values from the sequence edge inwards? (I say sequence in case your video clip is wider than the sequence)
3) Regarding the floating windows (still speaking hard windows), a pixel value for both Top Left/Bottom Left and Top Right/Bottom Right for both Left and Right frames would be extremely useful... especially for creating angled floating windows down the edges of the frame.
4) I have not experimented with this yet, but do the keyed values from Stereo Toolbox export to the EDL files?
5) At the moment I am working on HD footage 1920x1080, but find the Geometry Plugin rather unstable (when loading a Left & Right clip into the wells & then editing) and have reverted to using Above & Below stereo paired clips. Sadly though the plugin does not support a paired clip at 1920x2160, and thus I have been forced to loose half my vertical resolution by compressing both pairs into a single 1920x1080 clip. Have you looked into supporting clips that are wider than the sequence to allow for this sort of editing?
6) It would appear that when using your geometry filter to pair two clips using the Above & Below option the tool places the Right on Top, but when choosing an output option it says, Above & Below (Left on Top)... my experiments confirm that the right is in fact on top.