View Full Version : New Studio Plan. Brainstorming.


Steven Davis
February 15th, 2014, 11:13 PM
Well, I want a set studio. Essentially something that is around 800 to 1000 square feet. I want a photo/video/audio studio all in one.

So after researching many different approaches; moving to find basement, home addition, store front, sunroom (extra large), I'm leaning towards one of these fully insulated, electric heat/air etc. Prefabricated Steel Buildings and Metal Storage Buildings by Cavalier Buildings, IN, OK, MO, KS, TN, TX, VA (http://www.cavalierbuildings.com/default.htm) There is a lot of variety etc.

Still brainstorming.

Chris Hurd
February 15th, 2014, 11:55 PM
Great topic... moved to our studio forum, Home Away From Home.

Steven Davis
February 16th, 2014, 12:16 AM
Thanks Chris........

John Nantz
February 16th, 2014, 12:44 AM
Of the styles they show on the home page, the "Rigid Frame Building" looks the best, esthetically.

However, one of the downsides to this type of metal building construction is the interior finish. The trusses impinge on the interior and make it difficult to easily have a continuous wall. Maybe with only a 1,000 sf that wouldn't be a problem because it could be only one bay, but each bay will have a truss and the finished wall will have to work around it.

With industrial type interior finishes (look at Costco for retail) this isn't as much of a problem because they just put the insulation behind plastic sheeting and they're done with it. A gypsum wallboard isn't nearly as easy, and, to have a smooth one you loose a lot of footage.

Building supply, auto parts, body shops, fairgrounds buildings, etc often use these types of structures.

We had a 5,000 sf building and compared construction types for a retail building and went with block exterior and furred out in the interior with studs and insulation capped off with gypsum wallboard. Running plumbing, cabling for electrical, data, and phone was easy and straightforward. The block exterior was unfinished (no paint) but sealed.

The slab foundation will need to be insulated around the perimeter regardless of the building type. Block construction is weather dependent while metal not so much so. Stick-built is probably the easiest to modify later in life, block next, and metal the hardest.

Finding water leaks in a metal roof with insulation can be challenging but so can built-up roofs, but easier to repair.

P.S.: Doesn't Chris ever sleep?

Jim Michael
February 16th, 2014, 09:46 AM
Give some thought to sound insulating properties of the materials you use. There are sound absorbing wall board materials but they have to be installed in a manner that the infrastructure doesn't transmit sound. A suspended ceiling can help with audio from the roof area - the batting often used to insulate the roof isn't quite enough to mitigate external noise. Metal truss buildings are sometimes subject to creaking from pressure differentials (wind). If you have a high roof give consideration to some type of support system for lights. Also make sure you allow for plenty of power including outlets in high locations (e.g. for security cameras). Also give consideration to the IT infrastructure and network wiring requirements, e.g. a ventilated room for computers, LV wiring throughout the facility, etc.

Paul R Johnson
February 16th, 2014, 01:09 PM
Jim's comment is really important - I've built quite a few now, and all the time, effort and money spent on the walls can be wrecked if you can't have the same performance material design on the ceiling - and frankly that is far, far more difficult that walls.

You also have the other problem of supporting the weight of a decent sound treatment ceiling. We have the same types of prefabricated buildings here in the UK, and building a stud work timber wall structure with excellent performance is not that complicated - but a 30 foot span of ceiling needs serious support from above, and those lightweight building probably have nowhere near the capacity - so you're looking at proper rolled steel supports - meaning much more expense. You could get away with 10x2" timber joists if the room is no more than 18-20ft or so in width - but above this, it's really metal. If you have the luxury of steel, then you can cut sheet material to lay between the I beams - but again, you'll probably need extra timber bracing to do 8ft spans. Mind you, these I beams can also support your lighting system, but you're now outside the usual real of build it yourself.

John Nantz
February 16th, 2014, 01:27 PM
For heavy roof or ceiling loads when dimension lumber starts to get expensive a very good alternative is a wood I-beam like "Trus Joist". These are light-weight for the length and load so even up to quite large spans they can be handled with one or two workers - no crane required.

A 25-foot Trus Joist is easily handled with one person, even with a fairly good snow load.

Trus Joist link: Weyerhaeuser :: Trus Joist (http://www.woodbywy.com/trus-joist/)

Peter Ferling
February 16th, 2014, 02:13 PM
Also agree with Jim M on the sound insulation. In addition to that be mindful of HVAC placement with regards to noisy vent, (and/or provide a means to shut down/regulate the fans to limit noise during recording).

You might also consider adding a dedicated sound booth, and a secure, lockable cage for all your gear, (Google security cages and/or wire partitions).

These were issues that I encountered at my last employer, where I had to convert a large classroom into studio space inside a common office area near the training department. I had to deal with both noisy and nosy neighbor's alike.

Steven Davis
March 13th, 2014, 06:42 AM
Well so far.... I'm looking at a wood built 20x24 building with vaulted ceiling and 9 foot walls, no windows, but two doors. I'm thinking I'll have one long white wall for shooting, paint one of the walls partially black for shooting and have a partially painted green screen wall. All of this on a nice baby slick cement floor with throw rugs.

That's my thinking so far.

Steven Davis
March 31st, 2014, 01:10 PM
So I think this is the plan. It'll have 13'' cathedral ceilings inside. Six foot closet, two doors. The large square represents 10 feet out from the wall for backdrops and such.

Bill Davis
May 14th, 2014, 02:19 PM
Budget a LOT for sound treatment.
Parallel walls, boxy rooms or anything close to a square shapes are about the worst audio situation possible when it comes to standing waves or phase cancelations.

Just sayin.

Steven Davis
May 14th, 2014, 03:38 PM
Budget a LOT for sound treatment.
Parallel walls, boxy rooms or anything close to a square shapes are about the worst audio situation possible when it comes to standing waves or phase cancelations.

Just sayin.

Yeah, I'm hoping to find some large studio going out of business..

Steven Davis
May 24th, 2014, 10:05 AM
Well, the cement is layed. If you'd like to follow it, my facebook is https://www.facebook.com/DroptoDesignStudios?ref=hl

I've been doing a stopmotion with my d800, going to make a build movie out of it.

Steven Davis
August 6th, 2014, 10:01 AM
Well, the studio is finally built! Here's the little promo video I did for it.

Studio Time Lapse (http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-NBhBG/)

We ended up with mostly what I wanted, which was a high ceiling, custom lighting/wiring.

Mike Buckhout
August 31st, 2015, 11:40 AM
Looks like the building turned out well. Any photos of the inside?

Paul R Johnson
August 31st, 2015, 12:46 PM
Nice one! I'd like to see the inside design too. Very rude, but could you give a rough idea of the construction costs? I've no idea of the UK vs US prices for this kind of thing.

Steven Davis
August 31st, 2015, 07:55 PM
Hey guys,

Thanks for the complements... Here's an image of what it looked like with my first equipment. I really like that I went with the high ceilings, it makes a big difference. Paul, my initial output was right at 40k US. Ofcourse I've dropped more on photo and video equipment, still need a half/wooden floor etc. I might never stop configuring it lol.