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Haitham Lawati
October 4th, 2014, 05:21 AM
Regarding URSA, I have two inquiries:
1- How much does the body weigh?
2- Is the mount interchangeable? If I purchase EF Mount, is it possible to remove it and replace it with PL Mount for PL lenses compatibility and vice versa?

Haitham Lawati
October 5th, 2014, 12:39 AM
Any reply....

Jim Andrada
October 5th, 2014, 09:15 PM
According to the BM Ursa page

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicursa

you can change the mount but each mount includes the sensor - I don't think it would be cheap!

The specs

Blackmagic Design URSA 4K Digital Cinema Camera CINECAMURSA4K/EF


say it's 16.5 pounds

Haitham Lawati
October 6th, 2014, 05:39 AM
It is really awful to find the body so heavy, while other companies and parties compete to reduce weight in order to impress customers and make life easier for shooters!

Rakesh Malik
October 6th, 2014, 10:00 AM
When you get right down to it, the Ursa weighs about as much as the most popular cinema cameras currently on the market, which is Arri's Alexa line.

Mike Watson
October 6th, 2014, 08:43 PM
It is really awful to find the body so heavy, while other companies and parties compete to reduce weight in order to impress customers and make life easier for shooters!
I have more trouble trying to steady a 2 lb 5DMkII than I ever did a 20 lb Betacam.

Haitham Lawati
October 7th, 2014, 11:53 AM
The reason behind this stability could be the overall physical design of the camera and the appropriate location of centre of mass. Cinematography cameras have been designed with stability and balancing issues taken into consideration, whereas DSLR cameras are intended for photography primarily and video shooting capability is nothing more than being an additional and helpful feature.

Haitham Lawati
October 14th, 2014, 03:02 AM
If I were to purchase URSA, what would be the best choices for support rigs and matte boxes ?

Haitham Lawati
October 16th, 2014, 11:54 AM
Any reply ??....

Dylan Couper
October 20th, 2014, 04:10 PM
If I were to purchase URSA, what would be the best choices for support rigs and matte boxes ?

You'll find it quite a bit different... While it has built in 15mm rails, the base is made for a Sony V lock tripod plate adapter, so you'll need one of those. And if you want to go handheld, there's no shoulder pad built into it, so you'll need to find/make/adapt one until some solutions come on the market (I'm looking for one for mine right now).

Haitham Lawati
October 22nd, 2014, 12:27 AM
It seems that Blackmagic Design has its own accessories to facilitate the use of this camera.
Check this out:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/fi/products/blackmagicursa/accessories

Dylan Couper
October 23rd, 2014, 08:33 AM
Oh something on that page gives me an idea... Thanks!

Mat Thompson
October 26th, 2014, 05:21 PM
Over 16lbs with no evf/grip or shoulder mount. And of course no batteries, lens or NDs on that yet.

Strange camera!!

Jordan Nash
October 27th, 2014, 04:36 PM
You'll find it quite a bit different... While it has built in 15mm rails, the base is made for a Sony V lock tripod plate adapter, so you'll need one of those. And if you want to go handheld, there's no shoulder pad built into it, so you'll need to find/make/adapt one until some solutions come on the market (I'm looking for one for mine right now).

B&H has the official BMD shoulder mount listed as an accessory for the URSA, but no price and unsearchable otherwise (looks like it's supposed to be hidden).

Haitham Lawati
October 29th, 2014, 03:50 AM
When purchasing URSA, do I get along with the body a battery, a battery charger and CFast Card?

Jim Andrada
October 29th, 2014, 11:06 PM
I doubt it. I didn't see anything about a battery except re mounting plates for V-Lock or AB batteries and I'm sure there's no media included.

I think this is a case where you spend $5k for the body and another $5 - $10k (or more) to have something you can actually shoot with. My take on what you can expect to get from BM is basically a sensor in a shell with some firmware and a couple of control buttons. I think they're pretty much in the business of selling a sensor with a lens mount and display and a few buttons, not a complete camera.

Mike Watson
October 30th, 2014, 01:39 PM
Blackmagic Design URSA 4K Digital Cinema Camera CINECAMURSA4K/EF

The Ursa is in stock at B&H.

Mat Thompson
October 31st, 2014, 04:26 PM
I'm lost at why manufacturers are selling/designing cameras without viewfinders or with quite bad ones!

I can mount a monitor on the far fewer occasions that I need one. What I need is s really nice well thought through view finder.

Of course you can add after market but they never seem to integrate ad well.

As far as the Ursa...why that huge screen? Baffled !

Mike Watson
October 31st, 2014, 04:44 PM
Do I read correctly that there is no way to use the iris on EF mount lenses, outside of a "momentary auto iris" button, and no plans to institute iris control? Am I missing something?

Jim Andrada
October 31st, 2014, 08:30 PM
I think, particularly in the case of BM, they aren't selling cameras. They're selling a sensor and I/O block with a display of sorts and leaving it up to the user to build a real camera around it with parts sourced from third parties. Their motto should be "Every man a systems integrator"

Sort of like RED selling a "Brain", except you can get all the other parts from RED and they've been engineered to work together. Unlike BM.

Not that this is necessarily a bad thing, you just have to understand the business model and not be surprised. I have three BM "devices" so I'm obviously OK with the concept.

Bill Bruner
November 2nd, 2014, 11:51 PM
Hi Haitham - here's a post where I list everything you need (Blackmagic shoulder kit, 2 x 32GB CFast 2.0 cards, a CFast 2.0 reader, a V mount battery plate and an inexpensive V mount battery solution):

If you want a cinema camera below $8000 that can also do weddings, I recommend the $5995 Blackmagic URSA EF mount with the $345 shoulder mount kit as pictured here: https://images.blackmagicdesign.com/media/products/ursa/accessories/batt... (link is external)


You'll also need a couple of $180 CFast 2.0 cards, a $50 Sandisk Extreme Pro CFast 2.0 Reader/Writer, a $185 V mount battery plate and a V mount battery solution of some kind (I would get a couple of $10 Sony NP-F550 batteries (link is external), a $50 NP-F to V-mount adapter (link is external) and a $17 dual battery charger (link is external)).

With $349 Rokinon 14mm T3.1, $479 Rokinon 35mm T1.5 and $309 Rokinon 85mm T1.5 lenses, you will have a very capable Super 35mm camera for a little over $8000 - with Ultra High Definition "4K" at 60fps, built-in XLR jacks, the ability to record to 12-bit RAW or 10-bit ProRes.

With this list, you can be up and running for a little over $7000 body-only.

Good luck!

Bill

Haitham Lawati
November 4th, 2014, 12:23 PM
In fact, I am very much fascinated with URSA and have a big intention to purchase it. What makes me hesitated are some physical and technical attributes which I consider them drawbacks, such as heavy weight, no included battery, no view finder, no shoulder mount, etc.
It is quite early to arise this question but I find it necessary to do so before having any decision taken in this regard: is there any difference between URSA and Production 4K in terms of image quality (i.e. sharpness, color space, etc.)

Jim Andrada
November 4th, 2014, 05:57 PM
Speculation on my part but I suspect they'd be pretty close assuming the same lens.

Haitham Lawati
November 6th, 2014, 03:14 AM
Does URSA have built-in audio, or is it necessary to purchase an external microphone?

Bill Bruner
November 7th, 2014, 05:58 AM
This review from Faymus Media should answer a lot of your questions:


Blackmagic URSA Full Review - YouTube