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Alfred Okocha
August 15th, 2017, 04:07 PM
Hi there!

I'm looking for a replacement to my Sennheiser G3. Since I know next to nothing about sound I'm here for some sound advice..

I use it (with an a SONY FS5) for street interviews and would like to combine it with a lav mic. So, I can use one receiver for either a hand mic or a lav.
My G3 has been good and worked well for me but is not reliable anymore. now I'd like to know if there has been some upgrades in sound that i don't know about and where to go in that case.

Any input is greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

Tony McGuire
August 16th, 2017, 02:18 AM
Hi Alfred,

I would like to know what you mean as in " not reliable anymore". Is it interference from other mics or is just the age of the kit.

I have the G2 myself and I do get a bit of interference on it but its not bad. It would be just the odd time I would have the bother with interference. I have looked and I don't think there is anything as good as the Sennheiser out there. I have the full kit ( Lav bodypack, plugin module, handheld mic and the pack for the camera) . I have bought mine second hand and I have relpaced both packs aerials (antennas).

Phil Goetz
August 16th, 2017, 09:12 AM
I am wondering if there will be a spectrum repack and some frequencies dis-allowed in the US. Sennheiser usually has a good trade in program if this happens.

Rick Reineke
August 16th, 2017, 11:28 AM
The RF environment is constantly changing, especially of late with the FCC re-packing. "Not reliable anymore" is likely a new source of interference (usually intermittent RF hits). Unfortunately the 100 series receiver's scanner is not sensitive enough for anything other than other transmitters in use, so frequency selection needs to be done with a external scanner.. or at least consulting an up-to-date website to find and steer clear of strong TV channels in the area, along with trial & error and dumb luck For someone who cannot deal with frequency selection, one of the new GHz models may be good, but that opens a new set of issues. Pros and cons with all the systems.. VHS, UHF and SHF (cellular frequencies).

Alfred Okocha
August 18th, 2017, 01:53 AM
Hi there!
It's the hand mic that is giving me headache. I tried the lav in the same environment and same frequency and it was fine.

The sound also drops out completely sometimes.

Do you have any experience with Sonys UWP systems?

Thanks.

Rick Reineke
August 18th, 2017, 07:53 AM
There's an issue with the your SKM H/H transmitter module then. Check the battery contacts, exercise and inspect any switches and trim pots, and look for any abnormalities. Otherwise repair or replace.

I have no hands-on experience with the Sony system. The general consensus is, more self noise than the G3, but otherwise it's decent. I like the fact that the plug-on transmitter has 48v Phantom Power, whereas, the G3 SKP100 does not. Sennheiser's more expensive 300 or 2000 series plug-on is compatible though. Sony's UWP receiver is also true diversity. The EK100 Sennheiser receiver is different diversity design which uses the audio output cable as the secondary antenna.

Alfred Okocha
August 19th, 2017, 05:59 AM
Thanks guys!

I got a replacement today but the new mic just won't leave MUTE. Have any of you had this issue? I've toggled the hand mic on and off a hundred times, but still stuck on MUTE.

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Alfred

Bernie Beaudry
August 19th, 2017, 08:08 AM
If you press the on button too long I think it powers on with the audio muted. Not sure about that but it could be the issue. Just hold the button on until you see something on the screen and then let go. The manual should have some info on this.

Rick Reineke
August 19th, 2017, 08:42 AM
Make sure the transmitter and receiver are set to the same frequency.. if not the receiver will auto mute; and both devices should have the pilot tone enabled. Make sure it's not 'locked' as well. It may have been locked w/ mute engaged. If it is; press the SET button, then press the UP/DOWN select buttons to toggle lock ON/OFF.

Alfred Okocha
August 22nd, 2017, 09:10 AM
None of it worked. Must have been a faulty ex. I've sent it back.

I might buy a new G3 though. Sony looks interesting but the new AVX perhaps not as much.

Thanks for all you input guys!

Rick Reineke
August 22nd, 2017, 10:12 AM
The Sennheiser AVX transmitter uses the same input config as the G series, so your lav mics would work. It has some kind of an auto gain system, but it allegedly works OK, w/o the atypical pumping. The whopping 19 millisecond latency could be an issue for monitoring on-set. Easily correctable in post though if it's noticeable.. Don't know about the range, most of the new SHF systems have less range than a UHF and line-of-sight is of more importance.

Pete Cofrancesco
August 22nd, 2017, 12:13 PM
I own Sony UWP-d11 (lav &receiver) the d16 package includes a mic butt plug. My previous system the hand held unit went bad too...

Rick Reineke
August 22nd, 2017, 07:17 PM
"My previous system the hand held unit went bad too.."
- Which one.. Sennheiser or Sony ??

Pete Cofrancesco
August 22nd, 2017, 08:10 PM
Sony. I still have it. Just occurred to me I was trying to use it with a dynamic mic. I wouldnt be surprised if that was the issue, transmitter can't power dynamic mics.

Brian P. Reynolds
August 23rd, 2017, 02:06 AM
Sony. I still have it. Just occurred to me I was trying to use it with a dynamic mic. I wouldnt be surprised if that was the issue, transmitter can't power dynamic mics.

WHAT...... Dynamic mics DON'T need powering....

The Sony UWP-D systems is a very robust system (love them, I have 6x setups)

I suggest a little more time going through the manual

Pete Cofrancesco
August 23rd, 2017, 06:38 AM
WHAT...... Dynamic mics DON'T need powering....

The Sony UWP-D systems is a very robust system (love them, I have 6x setups)

I suggest a little more time going through the manual
You're right dynamics don't need power. I haven't used mine in so long I forgot.

The plugin transmitter was from an older kit I retired long ago.

Dave Fisk
August 24th, 2017, 07:14 AM
If you are looking for an upgrade, take a look at the Lectrosonics stuff. It's a big step up.

David Peterson
September 2nd, 2017, 11:51 PM
Hi there!
It's the hand mic that is giving me headache. I tried the lav in the same environment and same frequency and it was fine.

The sound also drops out completely sometimes.

Do you have any experience with Sonys UWP systems?

Thanks.

Sony UWP-D11 are "better" than the Sennheiser G3, yet cost around the same price.

I own 5x Sony UWP-D11 myself! (plus 5x Lectrosonics too, & 2x RodeLinks)

But would I recommend someone swaps over from G3 to UWP-D11? Nah, probably not really. As the gains is not worth the hassle? As UWP-D11 is better than a G3, but UWP-D11 vs G3 are still together in broadly the same category ("no budget wireless"). You need to step up to the likes of Lectrosonics/Zaxcom/Audio Ltd/Wisycom/etc, but they're far more expensive!

Paul Kellett
September 4th, 2017, 02:02 PM
Hi there!
It's the hand mic that is giving me headache. I tried the lav in the same environment and same frequency and it was fine.

The sound also drops out completely sometimes.

Do you have any experience with Sonys UWP systems?

Thanks.
Are you using a handheld mic with the plug in transmitter ? If so is the handheld mic metal bodied ? The metal body acts as the aerial for the plug in transmitter.

Paul.