View Full Version : Which filter for sunrise or sunset ??


Cengiz Ozgok
April 17th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Which filter must I use to make some shots about the sunsire or sunset
connected to damaging the ccd's of the camera

Andrew Todd
April 17th, 2006, 09:32 AM
nd filters

Derrick A.Jones
April 17th, 2006, 06:25 PM
for sunset you might not need anything. i have filmed a sunset before without any filters cause its already getting dark and the sun is not as bright.

for sunrise you might want to stick a nd filter on there or a Uv Filter just to be safe/

Ainslie Davies
April 18th, 2006, 04:31 PM
A graduated ND (if you're shooting land or ocean in the same frame as the sunset), this will give you richer colours and balance the exposure.

Dale Guthormsen
April 23rd, 2006, 10:15 PM
I shoot sunsets all the time, they just mesmerise me.

Nd filters as the others said.

I have used a polarizing filter when I have water in the view as well. Reflected sunstes are to die by.

I would definitely try them all and I would also try combinations.

We have tons of color here, but if you want to enrich them further you can get half red filters and use them.

David L. Holmes
April 23rd, 2006, 10:38 PM
Say Dale,

Couldn't you just do some post processing to get more color in your sunsets? As per the ND filter, what exactly does the N-D stand for? Are these standard 55mm filters?

Yep, more stuff to buy $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :(

Graham Bernard
April 24th, 2006, 12:28 AM
ND = Neutral Density . The XM2 has one built in.

Here are some great links. Exponents of filters and some technical stuff. Not too difficult either . . even I understood it.

Here is a great exponent of filters at work. See/notice his little pencil sketch of how he accomplishes just what is being shown. This was a great "eye-opener" for me.


Joe Cornish:
http://www.leefilters.com/downloads.asp


What they Do!
http://www.centuryoptics.com/products/filters/nd/index.htm

. . and more . .
http://www.tiffen.com/filters.htm


. .and this is just CHOCK full of stuff .. love it!!
http://www.formatt.co.uk/glass/filters.asp


. .well THAT should keep you going?

Grazie

Dale Guthormsen
April 24th, 2006, 10:13 PM
David,

I have tried some work in post and to be honest, as a person who loves sunsets, all the ones i did in post did not look quite right.

You can also change your red green and blue settings for more enriched effects but they do not look wuite right either.

I simply just set my settings to make it look like it actually was as apposed to trying to enhance them. but then where i live great sunsets are very common occurances!!!

I enjoyed the one site grazie p[osted!! out it on my list of favorites.

David L. Holmes
April 29th, 2006, 08:27 AM
Hey guys, I’ve been checking into ND filters, and other filters, for use on my GL2. I have noticed before that there is a "ND" filter button on my camera, but I thought it was a software setting, and not an actual filter. I had the idea of setting up my video camera near a beach and setting the time lapse to record the entire sunset. Has anyone come up with a setup procedure that looks pretty good? Ex: 2 sec exposure, 5 minutes apart? Also should I invest in a set of square filters and filter holder, or just get a cheaper round filter set? I like the idea of using a "Sunset" filter, but they only come in the square style.

Thanks,

Dave

Andrew Todd
April 29th, 2006, 03:30 PM
you can use your built in nd filter.. you may need additional ones though depending on what you're going for

Dale Guthormsen
May 1st, 2006, 11:22 PM
David,

I have tried all the time delays on my gl2 and my Sony. I could Not make any of them produce video that ran smoothly.

I have found that I just set the camera on its tripod and make necessary settings. Use the lanc remote if you want to change things on the fly. I put a fresh tape in and let it run the entire sunset. Here in the northern prairies we have long sunsets and I have never run out of tape.
I then go to post and use the time stretch tool to compress the frames as much as necessary to get the rate of movement I desire.
I do not change the rgb settings. My normal preset is one up on the red most of the time blue and green centered.

If anyone has a better way I would love to hear about, and would find it very benificial.