Hi,
could sum1 pls suggest the smallest 'good' Bogen fluid head to b used with monopod with xtendibale legs.
I find this kind of monopods a happi compromise in stediness and mobility btwn real tripods and simple sticks.

thnx and i's appreciate ur suggestions.

Why would you want a fluid head on a monopod? Added cost and weight does not add anything.

You don't want a fluid head for a monopod. Even with the best fluid head in the world you aren't going to get a good pan without the stability of a TRIpod. Monopods are for sports shooters and instant setup on shots that aren't expected to be perfect (for video)... sure you see great shots from still cams (think of all the white Canon lenses at any sporting event... on monopods)... well the still cams are at 1/125-1/250 of a second and any panning is for sub-1/30 timing. My point is that panning with a monopod isn't going to be anything like panning with a good head on a tripod... no matter what. At medium to tele settings the slightest change in angle will make a HUGE change in the picture.

I got a pretty good monopod and I put the 3229 tilt head on it 'cause it's super-light and small. All you really want to add to a monopod is TILT... you can supply the pan.

I've got a really good friend who has just become interested in video in the last year... and he always looks for a new way to do things... while I find this admirable in spirit, I've been unable to convince him that there's a reason why EVERY pro uses what they use. There's a reason you haven't ever seen a good fluid head on a monopod... it's just not a good idea.

When I was at B&H last March, I decided to return the type 681B monopod I had bought and got a 682B instead. That's one of the wisests moves I ever made.

The 682 has three detachable legs that screw-on at the base, which let's you use it as an emergency camera tripod or as a support for light light heads or as a mic stand.

Above have been the applications I have used extensively till now, and others might occur in the future.


Carlos

Hi Carlos,

The detachable legs also give you added stability when using the camera way over your head for high shots. It also adds to your stability when using the monopod as a boom. I have found that when using a regular monopod in this fashion results in shaky footage.

You can see examples of this on the link below. The first shot after the menu and the next to the last shot are examples of this technique. Click on view sample under Moving Camera Techniques.

http://www.tulsaweddingvideos.com/videographers.shtml

The detachable legs also give you added stability when using the camera way over your head for high shots. It also adds to your stability when using the monopod as a boom. I have found that when using a regular monopod in this fashion results in shaky footage.



My guess is you probably hold the legs against your shoulder to achieve that, right? It should provide a firm base to make your movements from. A closer screen would help there too.

One thing I do not like on the monopod is that the legs do a clinging noise when inside the pod. I tried a rubber-band, but it will no fit.

To do a more steadicam-like unit from it, I am looking for a screwable part that I could use to hold a weight from that end, without the legs.



Carlos

To solve the clanking noise from the legs I use a small piece of either gaffers tape or electrical tape. They still move around and clank but it doesn't seem as loud.

For additional weight on the bottom to help balance it as a "steadicam" type unit I went to a local sporting goods store and bought a 2 1/2 pound wrist weight. I velcrod it to the bottom and it seems to work pretty well. I generally have a WA attachment on the camera as well as a small light so the little bit of extra weight on the bottom really helps. Also its easy to remove and put on when needed.

Don

To solve the clanking noise from the legs I use a small piece of either gaffers tape or electrical tape. They still move around and clank but it doesn't seem as loud.

That's what I did too, though using paper tape. Not too practical though.


For additional weight on the bottom to help balance it as a "steadicam" type unit I went to a local sporting goods store and bought a 2 1/2 pound wrist weight. I velcrod it to the bottom and it seems to work pretty well. I generally have a WA attachment on the camera as well as a small light so the little bit of extra weight on the bottom really helps. Also its easy to remove and put on when needed.


Sounds good too. The next good thing would be to add a 90-degree bar to it, so we can have a better control of the camera.


Carlos

My guess is you probably hold the legs against your shoulder to achieve that, right? It should provide a firm base to make your movements from. A closer screen would help there too.

Carlos

Hi Carlos,

Actually the monopod is against my stomach or chest. I use a combination of wide angle lenses to give the sense of motion and added distance from the subject. I also use a tripod head so I can angle the camera down.

There is a lot of behind the scenes footage so you can see what I am doing with the camera to gain the desired look. I also compare the standard lens with a few different wide angle lenses so you can actually see the difference.

I also use a tripod head on the monopod. Yes it adds weight but the control factor outweighs that IMO.

The tape thing isn't a problem. I always have a roll in my bag and am only using the legs when its necessary so when I open them up I just put the small piece of tape somewhere on the monopod and when I'm done it's right there to reuse.

Don

when i need to capture ambient noise, i usually set up my sony ecm999 on the 682b monopod with the sony mic holder. the mic is too big for on-camera use, and i have my shotgun on my boom pole. the 682b is perfect as a field-ready mic stand.

I was just wondering if anyone has one and their experiences with it. Looks pretty cool to me :-)

I see in various threads where people have successfully mounted a 503 head on a Manfrotto monopod, in particular, the 682B. But I don't see how to do this. Do you remove the entire bowl part from the 503 head (i.e., remove the 3 set-screws used to tighten the bowl for tripod use)? I removed the handle on the head which controls the leveling, but that just left a large screw that doesn't fit into the monopod. Any help would be appreciated.

Yes, just remove the bowl. Unscrew the set screws between the bowl and the head and lock the bowl to your tripod. Engage the pan lock on the head and twist the head off. If the head won't come off and keeps slipping through the pan, you have to give the head a quick jerk while twisting it and it will pop free. Once you have the head free from the bowl you will see a 3/8" tapped hole on the bottom of head. This screws to the 3/8" bolt on the monopod.

Thanks, that's just what I needed. It works great.

I picked up the 694 version recently - used it while on vacation. It worked great.

I recently received a Manfrotto 560B and I noticed that the fluid cartridge slides off. I think it's defective. For anyone that has one, does the fluid cartridge just rotate but not come off the monopod?

Two last questions before I order one:
- is there a way to attach a pan to the "head" that comes with the 650B?
- the 66cm/26inch is still a little to long for the bag I usually take on a plane. Is there a way to dissemble the 560B in order to shorten it for transport?

thanks!

Martin

Manfrotto has apparently changed the design of the base legs. In the link bellow there are two PDF files. The one with serial numbers from A0516988 and up shows the original design. The new design starts with serial number A0762962 and up. Does anyone know if B&H have the updated design?

http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/spareparts/site/manfrotto/pid/13877

Martin,

I have a bogen 503 attached to my 560B. All you need is a 1/4" to 3/8 inch adapter. Unscrew the 560 B head and attach the adapter. Most tripod heads will mount to the 3/8 screw.

JonathanSchwartz
Owner,CA Video Productions

Thanks,
I just realized that I missed a word in my question:
is it possible to attach a pan HANDLE to the "head" that comes with the 560?

Martin

Martin,

No you can not attach a pan handle to the head (without some welding). But the head easily come off to expose a 1/4 inch bolt or you acan get an adapter to an 3/8 inch bolt. The more we use this monopod the more we like it. For the price, I do not think you will be dissappointed.

Jon Schwartz
CA Video Productions

I take it that NONE of you have purchased one from B&H?