Bogus HV50 (was: Interesting!) at DVinfo.net

Lee Wilson · February 15th, 2007, 05:16 AM

I saw this over at digitalcamcordernews (are we allowed to advertise other sites!) - looks like a 3 chip version of the HV20 - everything else looks pretty much the same, except for the colour/design ?

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4051/hv50naf3.jpg

Note from Admin: This is a hoax, of course -- confirmed for us by Canon USA at 5:31pm CST 15 Feb 2007 and again at 11:04am CST 16 Feb 2007. See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....0&postcount=31

C.S. Michael · February 15th, 2007, 06:53 AM

Fascinating! Note that it's labelled an HV50. Also it offers 18x zoom (as opposed to the HV20's 10x zoom). This is the first I've heard of such a camera.

Matthias Helbig · February 15th, 2007, 07:26 AM

Hi,

looks good, but where is the internal mic? Can't see it on the photo.

Chris Hurd · February 15th, 2007, 07:30 AM

Moved from Canon HDV to Area 51. Note that 1080p is *not* part of the HDV specification.

Those would be some tiny little chips to get 18x zoom from a 43mm front... I smell a hoax...

Mike Teutsch · February 15th, 2007, 07:45 AM

I think you may be right Chris. Note it says 720p also and Canon has never offered 720p have they? Then Again, if you have 1080p why would you need 720p?

Mike

Geoff Murrin · February 15th, 2007, 07:45 AM

It may not be a hoax. I do not know enough about lens sizees and chips, but the html text and art around the camera says 1080p, but no where on the camera does it say 1080p. But if it's a hoax, nice photshop job.

Lou Bruno · February 15th, 2007, 10:04 AM

There will be a release of a new camera late August to September 2007 for the consumer. My bets are on this one. I have this from a very reliable source.

Mike Teutsch · February 15th, 2007, 10:16 AM

Just means that I only buy one HV20 for now! :)

Mike

Tim Le · February 15th, 2007, 10:18 AM

Hey Lou, you said that two HDV cameras would be released after April 1st in this thread. The HV20 is obviously one of them. Any word on the other one?

Btw, this August marks Canon Inc.'s 70th anniversary.

Kurth Bousman · February 15th, 2007, 10:31 AM

Looks real ( the photo ) but the surrounding info has to be incorrect. Looks like canon will take over the video market like it has dominated the still market. It would be sooo cool if the 720p was right , coupled with 24/30p . That's what holds me down for the hv20 - no 30p . Don't understand it if the chip is progressive - why canon ? Of course if they give us everything on a consumer camera , who would want an H1 .

Lee Wilson · February 15th, 2007, 10:57 AM

From the same site:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3558/hv50nue4.jpg

Same picture bit a little clearer.

It is essentially the same as the HV20 but the microphone is missing (???) and the still camera is 5 mega pixels + 3 chip + bigger zoom and a 'cinescan-P' lock switch (??????) - also a bigger eye cup on the view finder.

Look like a real photo to me not a 3D mock up, but who knows maybe it is a hoax ? I think we said the very same thing about the HV20 in the first week or two of the initial rumours ???

Questions, Questions !

Lee Wilson · February 15th, 2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Note that 1080p is *not* part of the HDV specification.

But the HV20 does 1080p and that is a HDV camera ?

Tim Le · February 15th, 2007, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Wilson

From the same site:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3558/hv50nue4.jpg

Same picture bit a little clearer.

OK, we know it's a fake now. The focal length is still 6.1-61mm, which isn't 18X. Besides, I doubt you could fit 3-CMOS with a prism and an 18X lens in a body like that. They did do a good photoshop job with the eyecup, Cinescan lock switch and the slide lever switch above the flash unit. Or maybe that's all real and they PS'ed some of the markings.

Chris Hurd · February 15th, 2007, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Wilson

But the HV20 does 1080p and that is a HDV camera ?

The HV20 does *not* record 1080p. It records 1080i. You could say that the 24fps mode on the HV20 is 1080p24 at the chip, but you've got to realize that it has pulldown and goes to tape as 1080i60. It has to, otherwise it wouldn't be HDV.

Chris Hurd · February 15th, 2007, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Le

The focal length is still 6.1-61mm, which isn't 18X.

Whether this is a photochop or an actual mockup, you'd think that whoever worked it up would have been more careful about that.

February 15th, 2007, 05:16 AM	#1
Lee Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 376	Bogus HV50 (was: Interesting!) I saw this over at digitalcamcordernews (are we allowed to advertise other sites!) - looks like a 3 chip version of the HV20 - everything else looks pretty much the same, except for the colour/design ? http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4051/hv50naf3.jpg Note from Admin: This is a hoax, of course -- confirmed for us by Canon USA at 5:31pm CST 15 Feb 2007 and again at 11:04am CST 16 Feb 2007. See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....0&postcount=31

February 15th, 2007, 06:53 AM	#2
C.S. Michael Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 197	Hv50 Fascinating! Note that it's labelled an HV50. Also it offers 18x zoom (as opposed to the HV20's 10x zoom). This is the first I've heard of such a camera.

February 15th, 2007, 07:26 AM	#3
Matthias Helbig Tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chemnitz, Germany Posts: 2	? Hi, looks good, but where is the internal mic? Can't see it on the photo.

February 15th, 2007, 07:30 AM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Moved from Canon HDV to Area 51. Note that 1080p is not part of the HDV specification. Those would be some tiny little chips to get 18x zoom from a 43mm front... I smell a hoax... __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 15th, 2007, 07:45 AM	#5
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	I think you may be right Chris. Note it says 720p also and Canon has never offered 720p have they? Then Again, if you have 1080p why would you need 720p? Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

February 15th, 2007, 07:45 AM	#6
Geoff Murrin Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 46	It may not be a hoax. It may not be a hoax. I do not know enough about lens sizees and chips, but the html text and art around the camera says 1080p, but no where on the camera does it say 1080p. But if it's a hoax, nice photshop job.

February 15th, 2007, 10:04 AM	#7
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	There will be a release of a new camera late August to September 2007 for the consumer. My bets are on this one. I have this from a very reliable source. __________________ Lou Bruno

February 15th, 2007, 10:16 AM	#8
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Just means that I only buy one HV20 for now! :) Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

February 15th, 2007, 10:18 AM	#9
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	Hey Lou, you said that two HDV cameras would be released after April 1st in this thread. The HV20 is obviously one of them. Any word on the other one? Btw, this August marks Canon Inc.'s 70th anniversary.

February 15th, 2007, 10:31 AM	#10
Kurth Bousman Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san miguel allende , gto , mexico Posts: 644	Looks real ( the photo ) but the surrounding info has to be incorrect. Looks like canon will take over the video market like it has dominated the still market. It would be sooo cool if the 720p was right , coupled with 24/30p . That's what holds me down for the hv20 - no 30p . Don't understand it if the chip is progressive - why canon ? Of course if they give us everything on a consumer camera , who would want an H1 .

February 15th, 2007, 10:57 AM	#11
Lee Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 376	From the same site: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3558/hv50nue4.jpg Same picture bit a little clearer. It is essentially the same as the HV20 but the microphone is missing (???) and the still camera is 5 mega pixels + 3 chip + bigger zoom and a 'cinescan-P' lock switch (??????) - also a bigger eye cup on the view finder. Look like a real photo to me not a 3D mock up, but who knows maybe it is a hoax ? I think we said the very same thing about the HV20 in the first week or two of the initial rumours ??? Questions, Questions !