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Old December 5th, 2011, 02:20 PM   #16
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Are you arming the timecode trigger using the small button on the home screen?
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Old December 5th, 2011, 02:28 PM   #17
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Hi Pieter,

Have you set the time code to "HD-SDI" with the little blue ">" button in the Time Code menu on the second menu screen? As above have you armed the TC button on the main menu screen?
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Old December 5th, 2011, 02:30 PM   #18
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Please try;

Test 1: Power on F3, then Samurai
Test 2: Power on Samurai, then F3

Can you post whether you have sound recorded on both methods of start-up?

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Hi Alistair,

Did you get a chance to import the Avid MXF files directly into Premiere?
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Old December 5th, 2011, 02:48 PM   #19
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Re: Atomos samurai?

"It's possible that I may have missed something here?"

Yep, it's possible and I did. The trigger touch button on the screen so now all is good.
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Old December 5th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #20
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Peter: I can play back Avid DNxHD 422 .mov files without any issue in Premiere, but I cannot load Avid generated .mxf's. I get an un-supported codec error.
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Old December 5th, 2011, 04:02 PM   #21
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Thanks Alistair. I suspected as much about the MXF files. That's a shame.
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Old December 14th, 2011, 04:56 AM   #22
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Atomos have released V2.6 of the Samurai firmware and this fixes the lost audio with F3 bug.
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Old December 14th, 2011, 05:07 AM   #23
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Yep have had the 2.6 for a while. The rare and random green flashing is more of a problem.
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Old December 14th, 2011, 12:38 PM   #24
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Just got my Samurai working...pretty pleased with it so far.

I'll be on the lookout for green. Is it green frames, or entirely green clips?
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Old December 14th, 2011, 02:23 PM   #25
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If it happens, the entire clip, all green.
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Old December 14th, 2011, 03:54 PM   #26
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Okay, after some more time with the combo:

-I thought the SDI trigger from the F3 without rolling TC was working with the Samurai? I can't seem to get it to work. I would assume there's a setting on the Samurai to have it respond to that SDI trigger, but if it's there I can't find it. Maybe it's only SD Pix that has this wrapped up right now?

-HOLY COW. Clean, clean clean. With Slog, I'm holding sky, sun, clouds, and ground. Nothing is clipping aside from the actual sphere of the sun. I've shot with Alexa. This is so close it's barely worth talking about.
The Alexa of course though has better viewing, better ergos, etc etc.
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Old December 27th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #27
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Are you using Slog with the Samurai for the amazing review all almost as good as Alexa? I am still sitting on the fence with both Slog and Samurai but you are really selling it.

I need to up my quality even through some of my prime time TV customers don't care - go figure?
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Old December 28th, 2011, 02:37 AM   #28
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S-log on the F3 isn't just a small firmware upgrade. It's like having a totally different camera it so dramatically increases the dynamic range of the camera. It's not just that it can hold on to highlights so much better but also the way the highlights behave once you do reach overload. Instead of nasty, typical video clipping the highlights gently roll off which look so much nicer.

To really make the most of S-Log you need an external 10 bit recorder. I like the Samurai for day to day and long length projects, while the Gemini is my first choice for the high end stuff where uncompressed 444 is desirable.
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Old December 28th, 2011, 04:32 PM   #29
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Alister,

Just wondering if you've checked out the suggestion from Mitch at Abel Cine to record the s-Log 800% LUT directly to the SxS cards for a budget S-Log look that doesn't need external recorders or heavy grading? I'm wondering how that compares to the flat profile you recently posted on your blog for SxS recordings.

I would love to get a Samurai and S-Log but stuck fighting my own budget and clients that don't generally want to grade heavily.

BTW - Thanks for all your generous advice to our community this year. Hope your holidays are great.

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Old January 12th, 2012, 06:54 AM   #30
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Its not just the flat look that's different, the roll off of highlights and dynamic range is completely different in S-Log. I like the look of regular F3 footage, but S-Log makes it shoot like a different camera.
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