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Originally Posted by Steve Mullen
(Post 920328)
Measurements of AWB and INDOOR in bright -- not dim -- light. Note, all show a lack of perfect WB -- easily seen by the experienced eye.
The final pix shows how skin looks after CC of MWB. Note the skin lines-up on the "flesh" vector. Now one is getting the best from the Sony. Something one wants before burning a $25 Blu-ray disc.
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Steve, the point I'm trying to make is that even to the 'experienced eye', color looks extremely accurate the vast majority of times. Of course much of my 'fun' shooting is done outdoors in good lighting and therefore the AWB is much more accurate. As you move indoors and the lighting gets dimmer, the accuracy suffers as it does with almost all videocameras. The difference between accurate color and 'perfect' color will always be there. But as far I'm concerned a camera used in this manner, for non-broadcast situations, and shooting fun events, there is absolutely no need to CC. When I'm standing and watching the actual scene I just shot and am watching it concurrently on a calibrated plasma, and the two look about as perfect as the technology (both display and consumer camcorder) will allow, there's no need for a vectroscope to tell you what's right and wrong.
I stand by what I've always said, if the color doesn't call attention to itself, then you are in good shape. Further, even with CC, no consumer cam will give you 'perfect' color...it's just not possible. Another issue to remember is that when you CC, you may bring one color closer to perfect, but in the process move another color further away from 'perfect'. This is a situation that is also faced when doing ISF calibrations of display devices. Keep in mind the user also has MWB at his/her disposal.
Further, and just as important as I've stated before, the human memory is such that you will never ever pick up slight inaccuracies of color for things you shot the day before or some other time in the past. There's no way any human can remember 'precisely' what a given color looked like when it was shot days before. So there's a good chance the 'inaccuracy' will simply be undetectable. When the colors are significantly wrong, most people will pick it up regardless of when the footage was shot. That was my problem with the HF10, it was simply 'wrong'.
The bigger joke is that most people who buy these cameras (yes, even prosumers) will display their footage on displays that have not been ISF'd. Some may only use LCDs to watch their footage which generally won't give you accurate colors even if you stand on your head and spit nickels. So what does 'accuracy' mean at that point? :)
But there is no need to CC footage shot outdoors in the vast majority of situations. By the way, shooting indoors in office type lighting (flourescent), generally yields more accurate colors than incandescent, especially when using the MWB. The bottom line with poor lighting with any camera, is to use auxilliary lighting if you really want more accurate and better looking footage. Of that there's no denying. Yes, in some situations you simply can't do that, but when there's a choice and you really want your footage at its best, use lighting.
For me, with a trained and 'experienced' eye, colors on my 60" calibrated Pioneer Kuro look extremely accurate the vast majority of times.
P.S. No need to burn a $25 BR disc when you can burn AVCHD files just as effectively to a 20 cent DVD-R. Also, if I were you I'd stop shopping at whatever place is charging you $25 for a BR disc!!! ;)