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Old October 27th, 2006, 07:30 PM   #1
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Editing footage from AVCHD, how much interest?

We been getting a few inquiries about support AVCHD *.m2ts files within Connect HD and Aspect HD, I just wondering if these inquires are the tip of an iceberg. We have determined AVCHD support will be a minor to moderate upgrade to our existing HDLink application. I have already sucessfully converted the video picture to CineForm AVIs with very little effort, most of the work will be related to audio support.

Can I please have a show of hands to the level of interest.

And if you are interested, which particular features of Connect HD or Aspect HD would you like added for AVCHD support?

Your thoughts welcome on this issue. AVCHD adds a bit a wrinkle to licensing model. The currently higher-end HDV format is limited to 1440x1080, so our licensing matches, yet this new lower end consumer format can output 1920x1080. We could offer AVCHD support as standard under the 1440x1080 license (at no additional costs -- other maybe an AVC decoder license $10 like CoreAVC if a free one isn't sufficient) video would be scaled as needed (note: you won't see a quality difference) or would users be willing to pay a premium for 1920x1080 versions of Connect HD and Aspect HD (some overlap into the higher-end Prospect HD space?)

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Old October 29th, 2006, 08:16 AM   #2
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Any new developments on this? Thanks.
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Old October 29th, 2006, 10:11 AM   #3
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It is a question for you and others as to when we release and in what form.
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Old October 29th, 2006, 07:48 PM   #4
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I've been working on a project with the Sony hd-sr1 for a few weeks now and I desperately need to be able to work with these files. I currently edit with vegas. If enough interest was show, how long would it take to implement? Thank you

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Old October 29th, 2006, 09:26 PM   #5
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Luke,

It would take a couple of weeks of engineering to do the work that enables conversion of AVCHD to 1440x1080 or 1280x720 for fast post as CineForm AVIs. So yes will do it at some point, but how soon is the question given the number of other projects we have.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 12:06 PM   #6
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David,

I'm extremely interested in the idea of shooting in high def with an SD card camcorder so I'm waiting on pins and needles for the Panasonic offering.

I use Vegas and really want to get away from realtime tape ingestion. If this camera pans out quality wise, then I need an editing solution. Basically, if this cam can come sort of close to HDV, I'll most likely buy one if, and only if, I can edit the footage.

Edit: Sorry, wasn't specific about features. I just upgraded to Vegas 7 (from 4.0) and I haven't done any kind of HD editing yet. I do believe that your Vegas product for HDV is in the $200 range. The cost for the Premier version was a little rich for my blood.
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Old November 1st, 2006, 02:36 PM   #7
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**raises hand**

I have been trying to decide which cam to buy for my b-cam.

I ve very interested in the Sony 30gig Hd cam. The only thing thats kept me from a purchase is lack of editing capability. I already own Connect HD, so yes, an update to include this would be greatly appreciated!!

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Old November 1st, 2006, 03:36 PM   #8
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Me too. The only thing that's holding me back from purchasing one these camcorders is the ability to edit within Vegas 7.
I'd pay more for the 1920 x 1080 option. ($50 easily, $100 maybe...)
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Old November 1st, 2006, 03:45 PM   #9
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Thank you Dan and Jason,

Good feedback.
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Old November 1st, 2006, 07:56 PM   #10
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David Newman,

I speak to more and more people everyday who are looking for an editing solutions for these files. Iím very pleased to see someone step up to the plate and be the first to make this stuff workable. I called cineform today and spoke with mary. She was very nice and informative with the questions I had regarding what your soft wear can do for me. When you get this to work, you most definitely have a new customer.

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Old November 2nd, 2006, 08:03 AM   #11
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David,
For me the situation is clear :

IF aspect HD supports AVCHD, i'll buy one (fro christmas ) to "tape" (sic) sports events, etc...

OTHERWISE, i'll let it sleep on the shelves.

SO, SANYO should fund this development !!!
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 09:21 PM   #12
 
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I should chime in here; comments from *several* fora on the web, emails we receive at VASST, etc offer strong interest. If you can find a good means of accessing the consumer channel, ie; Vegas Movie Studio crowd, you'll have a great success with AVC HD in the CineForm toolset, IMO.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 02:31 PM   #13
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AVCHD via Small Sony Cams

I think there would be lots of interest from the videographer community in the use of Sony's small HDDVD and Hard Drive cams based on AVCHD. I saw the hard drive model in Circuit City and I was just about to take the plunge and buy it. It overcame many of the limitations of the C3 because it had a means to attach an accessory show PLUS and external mike input jack AND a headphone jack. There is a need for cams like this to get POV footage at social events and service as a backup.

What stopped me dead in my tracks was the inability to deal with the material in editing. While I can see the use of a Cineform or Connect HD codec for serious users, there should also be something bundled with the camera that enables both consumer and pro users to archive and edit the footage.
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Old November 5th, 2006, 01:45 AM   #14
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...or would users be willing to pay a premium for 1920x1080 versions of Connect HD and Aspect HD (some overlap into the higher-end Prospect HD space?)

Thanks,
Definitely yes on the 1920x1080...if:
...you don't go ballistic on the pricing for it
...you include the 5.1 audio

and when you stated "some overlap into the PHD space...", are you considering offering 8 bit and 10 bit versions too?
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Old November 5th, 2006, 08:33 AM   #15
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David

Thanks for asking the troops.

You've received many knowledgeable responses here.

I'd also strongly consider an AVCHD cam if there was a good editor for it. I'm currently using Premiere Pro 2.

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