AVCHD Editing with CineForm

[Derek Weiss]

So I can take an AVCHD stream, load it into HDlink (version 3.4.1 build 36) and then click 'convert' and HD link will convert the AVCHD to Cineform AVI?

If I change the file name, and click on "All supported media files" the AVCHD file is unavailable.

Thanks again for the technical assistance.

[David Newman]

Selected "All Files (*.*)" and you will be able to convert it. It will be to the "All supported..." list in the next release (called NEO HDV.)

[Derek Weiss]

Still can't get it to work. Here's what I'm doing.

1. change original avchd file to test.avchd
2. open Cineform HDLink 2.2.5
3. Elecard and support software is installed.
4. Click on "convert"
5. Click on "all" files, and click test.avchd
6. Click "start"

I get a "progress" bar with no blue bars like when you convert normal m2t files. Then it says conversion done, but it shows up as 0 bytes and no file in the export folder.

Then the capture log says the following...

Using Moonlight/Elecard PMEG components
Using MPEG audio decoder 3
Using Super-Threaded Conversion
Convert Done

[David Newman]

Will that file play in Window MediaPlayer (use open width..) If it doesn't the file or your Elecard installation isn't correct.

[Guy Bruner]

Derek,
Do you have another computer you could try it on? I have the same problem with my desktop but it works fine on my laptop. The laptop is using Nero 7 filters. I've tried the desktop with Nero 7 and Elecard and still have the same problem. Funny thing is, HDLink will convert the audio. Gives me a 28KB audio file but no video.

It's something with the software load and may be hard to troubleshoot. I'm running XP Pro on the desktop and XP Home on the laptop. Might have something to do with it.

[Derek Weiss]

Originally Posted by Guy Bruner

Derek,
Do you have another computer you could try it on? I have the same problem with my desktop but it works fine on my laptop. The laptop is using Nero 7 filters. I've tried the desktop with Nero 7 and Elecard and still have the same problem. Funny thing is, HDLink will convert the audio. Gives me a 28KB audio file but no video.

It's something with the software load and may be hard to troubleshoot. I'm running XP Pro on the desktop and XP Home on the laptop. Might have something to do with it.

Interesting. I have Nero 7 and Elecard on my editing PC. Maybe the Nero is somehow blocking it? I do have another computer, maybe I will try it on the old dog.

Thanks.

[David Newman]

to help debug download GraphEdit (http://www.stokebloke.com/video/wmv2avi.php). Run GraphEdit then drop your m2ts file on the window. You will see something like this attached image. If you have a suitable Demux, video and audio decoder the "graph" will build and play.

[Derek Weiss]

I removed Nero from the editing computer. Now Cineform just crashes every time I open it and try to convert files.

Weird.

[David Newman]

Re-install your CineForm components as Nero took something out. Verify that it works again for HDV media, then try the GraphEdit test I just posted.

[Derek Weiss]

I removed and reinstalled Cineform, no luck. I used Graphedit, no luck.

Any other suggestions?

[David Newman]

GarphEdit, no luck? It wasn't to make things work, it was to determine way things weren't. What graph did it build?

[Derek Weiss]

Originally Posted by David Newman

GarphEdit, no luck? It wasn't to make things work, it was to determine way things weren't. What graph did it build?

OK, I dropped a file into GraphEdit. "Some of the streams are in an unsupported format."

06.m2ts (output)-(input)Elecard Pmeg Demultiplexer-(in)AC3Filter-(out)Audio Input (rendered)

So it is missing the MPEG Decoder on the Graph. So there are no 'arrows out' of the h.264. So obviously it is not rendering the video.

I clicked on the blue square to try to 'insert a filter into graph', but haven't found the appropriate filter yet.

[David Newman]

This suggested you haven't install the Elecard player (or similar.) Or you PC will not let you install those components. Or you have something else that is killing Elecard. Sorry I can't help with that, you will need to contact Elecard or the vendor of the components that aren't appearing in GraphEdit.

[Derek Weiss]

Originally Posted by David Newman

This suggested you haven't install the Elecard player (or similar.) Or you PC will not let you install those components. Or you have something else that is killing Elecard. Sorry I can't help with that, you will need to contact Elecard or the vendor of the components that aren't appearing in GraphEdit.

Thanks for your help along the way. Much appreciated.

Maybe Vegas 7 will release the AVCHD editing after NAB in a couple weeks.

[David Newman]

Maybe they will, but it will be very slow, slower than HDV.