Avid / Pinnacle discussions from 2004

Nick Underwood · July 22nd, 2004, 12:12 PM

Hi guys....

Has anyone found out a way of either producing or adding a blur filter to make the edge of the screen/picture blurred, but as you move towards the center of the screen, there is no blur.....?

Sorry....that sounds rubbish when I read it back, but it's quite tricky to explain...!

I'm after a look that is like looking down a "telescope" or tube, so that the edges are blurred in a circular"template" around the edge of the screen, but the center of the screen is not blurred....

I've played with the blur effect, but can only work out how to do "square" looking blur patterns, and not the edge of the picture, but the whole lot.......

I guess the closest analagy I can think of is when wedding photographers take pictures with "grease" on the outside rim of the lens, it produces exactly the effect I'm after.....

Any ideas?!!

Thanks

George Ellis · July 22nd, 2004, 03:51 PM

Try this:

Copy your clip and paste it above itself. Apply the Blur CPU in Realtime Clip FX to the bottom clip. Now apply the MultiShape Crop GPU from the same folder to the top clip. Change the size to suit and in Shape, change the Sides to 40.

You can keyframe or turn them off. You can use the edge softness in the multishape crop to blend it with how much blur you use in the blur fx.

Nick Underwood · July 24th, 2004, 02:51 AM

Thanks George...just the job !

Lukah Sighs · July 29th, 2004, 10:02 AM

hi, does anyone know where i can download a guide for avid xpress?

thanx.

lukah

Murad Toor · July 31st, 2004, 11:27 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bob England :

They didn't get as much play in the press as Apple did, but at NAB Avid also announced support for DVCPRO HD. -->>>

That's the difference between announcing support and actually delivering it.

The Avid link in the first post makes it seem like they're shipping an HDV solution right now, but a click or two into the site reveals it's an asterisk "*Planned for future release."

Nick Underwood · August 3rd, 2004, 07:35 AM

ummm....

I think I've messed up !

I deleted most of the elements of a project to start another one, but now have red bars and exclamation marks everywhere in my racks for sound files and title decko's etc.....!

On the timeline, it plays nothing apart from the big "!"
If I right click and "Open with titledecko".....the title opens fine, but is not recoginised on the timeline.....

Can anyone suggest anything?

Cheers

Rob Lohman · August 3rd, 2004, 08:21 AM

Premiere? What version?

See this thread on project files

Not saved any older versions I presume?

Nick Underwood · August 3rd, 2004, 09:23 AM

oops...!

Sorry.....! I'm using Liquid Edition.

Rob Lohman · August 3rd, 2004, 09:33 AM

No problem. I've changed the thread's title for you to indicate
this to hopefully attract a few more people. Not a lot of people
here are using LE to the best of my knowledge.

John Wilcox · August 3rd, 2004, 01:15 PM

Nick,

Have you tried Using the Project Clean up function of LE. Don't know if it will solve your problem but its worth a try.

You access Clean up through the Trashcan icon on the LE desktop.

Good Luck

Dan Max · August 4th, 2004, 02:47 AM

Hello all,

I use Avid xpress pro 4.3 , I like editing with it but I can’t find a way to exporting it to DVD. I’ve tried to use QT ref. sending it to Sonic dvdit or Tempgen (for the Authoring I prefer DVD lab) but the result was unacceptable. Even if I try to see the QT ref. through a QT browser it looks bad. Exporting to Qt regular file did not help ether (and cost a lot of space).

What could be the problem? What would you suggest?

For now I copy the sequence to a dv camera (I do it any way for backup) then recapture it with Sonic mydvd that makes an mpeg out of it, then author it with dvd-lab and burn it with it – It works but there must be a better way.

Thanks.

David Kennett · August 4th, 2004, 07:42 AM

Try TMPGEnc (Google it). A trial is available - and it's inexpensive. Very high quality MPG encoder.

Richard Alvarez · August 4th, 2004, 08:55 AM

Did you not get a copy of Sorenson Squeeze? I assume you have the student version of Avid? Sorenson is a great compressor, and highly reccomended by Avid.

Dan Max · August 4th, 2004, 12:40 PM

Well as, I’ve wrote, I have tried Tempgen and it didn't get a good result in this case. I think that the problem begin with Avid and it's QT reference file - as I've mentioned, viewing it even wit QT 6 browser gives poor result.

Have you experienced Tempgen or Sorenson squeeze with Avid (exporting as QT ref)?

Dan.

Dan Max · August 8th, 2004, 09:57 AM

I have installed Sorenson and the result seems to be good (much better then any test I have made before with other programs). Still I have to complete the test by burning it to dvd and test on TV.

However installing the Sorenson invoke an error in my win xp file explorer – the explorer crash each time I select a file (any file) with an MPG extension (Uninstalling Sorenson fix the problem).

Any Ideas?

Thanks,
Dan.

July 22nd, 2004, 12:12 PM	#106
Nick Underwood Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester,UK Posts: 62	Blur effect with Liquid edition Hi guys.... Has anyone found out a way of either producing or adding a blur filter to make the edge of the screen/picture blurred, but as you move towards the center of the screen, there is no blur.....? Sorry....that sounds rubbish when I read it back, but it's quite tricky to explain...! I'm after a look that is like looking down a "telescope" or tube, so that the edges are blurred in a circular"template" around the edge of the screen, but the center of the screen is not blurred.... I've played with the blur effect, but can only work out how to do "square" looking blur patterns, and not the edge of the picture, but the whole lot....... I guess the closest analagy I can think of is when wedding photographers take pictures with "grease" on the outside rim of the lens, it produces exactly the effect I'm after..... Any ideas?!! Thanks

July 29th, 2004, 10:02 AM	#109
Lukah Sighs New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Location: hesto europe Posts: 17	avid xpress guide hi, does anyone know where i can download a guide for avid xpress? thanx. lukah

August 3rd, 2004, 07:35 AM	#111
Nick Underwood Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester,UK Posts: 62	Exclamation marks ummm.... I think I've messed up ! I deleted most of the elements of a project to start another one, but now have red bars and exclamation marks everywhere in my racks for sound files and title decko's etc.....! On the timeline, it plays nothing apart from the big "!" If I right click and "Open with titledecko".....the title opens fine, but is not recoginised on the timeline..... Can anyone suggest anything? Cheers

August 3rd, 2004, 08:21 AM	#112
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Premiere? What version? See this thread on project files Not saved any older versions I presume? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 3rd, 2004, 09:33 AM	#114
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	No problem. I've changed the thread's title for you to indicate this to hopefully attract a few more people. Not a lot of people here are using LE to the best of my knowledge. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 22nd, 2004, 03:51 PM	#107
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	Try this: Copy your clip and paste it above itself. Apply the Blur CPU in Realtime Clip FX to the bottom clip. Now apply the MultiShape Crop GPU from the same folder to the top clip. Change the size to suit and in Shape, change the Sides to 40. You can keyframe or turn them off. You can use the edge softness in the multishape crop to blend it with how much blur you use in the blur fx.

July 24th, 2004, 02:51 AM	#108
Nick Underwood Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester,UK Posts: 62	Thanks George...just the job !

July 31st, 2004, 11:27 AM	#110
Murad Toor Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 125	<<<-- Originally posted by Bob England : They didn't get as much play in the press as Apple did, but at NAB Avid also announced support for DVCPRO HD. -->>> That's the difference between announcing support and actually delivering it. The Avid link in the first post makes it seem like they're shipping an HDV solution right now, but a click or two into the site reveals it's an asterisk "*Planned for future release."

August 3rd, 2004, 09:23 AM	#113
Nick Underwood Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester,UK Posts: 62	oops...! Sorry.....! I'm using Liquid Edition.

August 3rd, 2004, 01:15 PM	#115
John Wilcox Regular Crew Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 25	Nick, Have you tried Using the Project Clean up function of LE. Don't know if it will solve your problem but its worth a try. You access Clean up through the Trashcan icon on the LE desktop. Good Luck __________________ John Wilcox

August 4th, 2004, 02:47 AM	#116
Dan Max Tourist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tlv israel Posts: 3	avid to dvd problem Hello all, I use Avid xpress pro 4.3 , I like editing with it but I can’t find a way to exporting it to DVD. I’ve tried to use QT ref. sending it to Sonic dvdit or Tempgen (for the Authoring I prefer DVD lab) but the result was unacceptable. Even if I try to see the QT ref. through a QT browser it looks bad. Exporting to Qt regular file did not help ether (and cost a lot of space). What could be the problem? What would you suggest? For now I copy the sequence to a dv camera (I do it any way for backup) then recapture it with Sonic mydvd that makes an mpeg out of it, then author it with dvd-lab and burn it with it – It works but there must be a better way. Thanks.

August 4th, 2004, 07:42 AM	#117
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	Try TMPGEnc (Google it). A trial is available - and it's inexpensive. Very high quality MPG encoder. __________________ Dave

August 4th, 2004, 08:55 AM	#118
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Did you not get a copy of Sorenson Squeeze? I assume you have the student version of Avid? Sorenson is a great compressor, and highly reccomended by Avid.

August 4th, 2004, 12:40 PM	#119
Dan Max Tourist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tlv israel Posts: 3	Well as, I’ve wrote, I have tried Tempgen and it didn't get a good result in this case. I think that the problem begin with Avid and it's QT reference file - as I've mentioned, viewing it even wit QT 6 browser gives poor result. Have you experienced Tempgen or Sorenson squeeze with Avid (exporting as QT ref)? Dan.

August 8th, 2004, 09:57 AM	#120
Dan Max Tourist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tlv israel Posts: 3	I have installed Sorenson and the result seems to be good (much better then any test I have made before with other programs). Still I have to complete the test by burning it to dvd and test on TV. However installing the Sorenson invoke an error in my win xp file explorer – the explorer crash each time I select a file (any file) with an MPG extension (Uninstalling Sorenson fix the problem). Any Ideas? Thanks, Dan.