Before the Devil Knows You're Dead shot in HDcamSR at DVinfo.net

Yi Fong Yu · November 19th, 2007, 01:43 PM

http://imdb.com/title/tt0292963/technical
^other than Lucas, he's one of the classic directors beginning to turn to digital and it has made his film a bit better.

any other classic directors turning towards digital?

David Mullen · November 19th, 2007, 11:49 PM

Lumet used the Panavision Genesis for "Before the Devils Knows You're Dead".

Lumet has been an HD fan for awhile, ever since his series "100 Centre Street" was shot in HD.

Besides Lucas, Rodriquez, Fincher, Cameron, Mann... well, Francis Coppolla claims he's converted to HD now that he made "Youth without Youth" in HD (it was shot on the F900 but they recorded the signal to an external SRW-1 deck so they could get 10-bit 4:2:2 with less compression using HDCAM-SR.)

Soderberg has shot in digital before and is using the RED cameras for his two newest movies, but he's also somewhat of a dabbler in different technologies and could just as easily go back to film after these movies.

Jay Kavi · January 9th, 2008, 11:43 PM

I loved the movie. Lean and Mean, with excellent acting all around.

Peter Moretti · April 20th, 2008, 03:01 PM

But it looked horrible. The highlights were badly blown-out and there were essentially no gradation in the shadows, only black. I was amazed at how poor it looked, unless that was intentional--for some reason that escapes me.

Pietro Impagliazzo · April 20th, 2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Mullen

Lumet used the Panavision Genesis for "Before the Devils Knows You're Dead".

Lumet has been an HD fan for awhile, ever since his series "100 Centre Street" was shot in HD.

Besides Lucas, Rodriquez, Fincher, Cameron, Mann... well, Francis Coppolla claims he's converted to HD now that he made "Youth without Youth" in HD (it was shot on the F900 but they recorded the signal to an external SRW-1 deck so they could get 10-bit 4:2:2 with less compression using HDCAM-SR.)

Soderberg has shot in digital before and is using the RED cameras for his two newest movies, but he's also somewhat of a dabbler in different technologies and could just as easily go back to film after these movies.

Hmmm, that's a nice thing to know.

How about you David? Have you ever worked with digital?

Are you going to work with RED soon?

Brian Tori · April 20th, 2008, 03:57 PM

Don't forget Apocalypto. Panavision Genesis. I think this has a nice look to it. Very sharp and nice contrast. Many scenes shot with severe contrast under harsh sunlight. I think the camera handled highlights well. This seems to be a point of reservation with some DP's who claim HD doesn't handle high contrast well. I think the benefits of HD far outweigh the drawbacks, which seem to be shrinking as time passes.

November 19th, 2007, 01:43 PM	#1
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	Before the Devil Knows You're Dead shot in HDcamSR http://imdb.com/title/tt0292963/technical ^other than Lucas, he's one of the classic directors beginning to turn to digital and it has made his film a bit better. any other classic directors turning towards digital? __________________ bow wow wow

November 19th, 2007, 11:49 PM	#2
David Mullen American Society of Cinematographers Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 123	Lumet used the Panavision Genesis for "Before the Devils Knows You're Dead". Lumet has been an HD fan for awhile, ever since his series "100 Centre Street" was shot in HD. Besides Lucas, Rodriquez, Fincher, Cameron, Mann... well, Francis Coppolla claims he's converted to HD now that he made "Youth without Youth" in HD (it was shot on the F900 but they recorded the signal to an external SRW-1 deck so they could get 10-bit 4:2:2 with less compression using HDCAM-SR.) Soderberg has shot in digital before and is using the RED cameras for his two newest movies, but he's also somewhat of a dabbler in different technologies and could just as easily go back to film after these movies. __________________ David Mullen, ASC Los Angeles

January 9th, 2008, 11:43 PM	#3
Jay Kavi Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 243	I loved the movie. Lean and Mean, with excellent acting all around.

April 20th, 2008, 03:01 PM	#4
Peter Moretti Trustee Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 1,259	But it looked horrible. The highlights were badly blown-out and there were essentially no gradation in the shadows, only black. I was amazed at how poor it looked, unless that was intentional--for some reason that escapes me.

April 20th, 2008, 03:57 PM	#6
Brian Tori Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 408	Don't forget Apocalypto. Panavision Genesis. I think this has a nice look to it. Very sharp and nice contrast. Many scenes shot with severe contrast under harsh sunlight. I think the camera handled highlights well. This seems to be a point of reservation with some DP's who claim HD doesn't handle high contrast well. I think the benefits of HD far outweigh the drawbacks, which seem to be shrinking as time passes.