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Old July 11th, 2005, 05:31 AM   #1
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HD scene in Phantom Menace

I have heard this rumour a few times,does anyone know if its true and also which scene it was.

Also what was the camera and did it have panavision lenses?

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Old July 11th, 2005, 06:32 AM   #2
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I have heard this rumour a few times,does anyone know if its true and also which scene it was.

Also what was the camera and did it have panavision lenses?

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Pretty blatant if you ask me: It's the scene in which Qui-Gon tells Anakin he's checking his blood for infections. It was the F900 but I'm fairly sure they hadn't Panavised it by that point yet.
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Old July 11th, 2005, 09:30 AM   #3
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Episode 2 was shot with Sony F900, Episode 3 with Sony F950. Lucas used Fujinon lenses.

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Old July 23rd, 2005, 06:32 AM   #4
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I watched that scene and it was very dark. But i dont think i would have noticed if i didnt know already. Also, the footage of Ewan McGregor in the ship that is very red and looks pretty average, so im assuming this is on HD too.

Just wondering, is there a massive difference between the lenses they use on differen HD productions, (IE Csi NY, Once upon a time in MEXiCO, 24). Ive checked out the latest season of 24 and it looks to me like digital betacam.

Very sharp but ultimately very unfilm like. It seems HD is inconsistant across the board, unless ofcourse that the film look is dying and is being replaced with ultra sharp, ultra bright uber video looks.

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Old July 24th, 2005, 03:03 AM   #5
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As Radek said...it wasn't a scene...it was the whole darn movie. I think even the first film was entirely HD.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 11:17 AM   #6
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I'm pretty sure that Lucas said that he had to shoot Episode I on film because the HD cameras were not ready when production started.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 01:20 PM   #7
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If you look at the IMDB, with The Phantom Menace, the technical specs, Episode 1 should be have filmed on 35mm, not on HD. Bennis is right.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 04:30 PM   #8
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Digital Cinema comming of age.

The Sony CineAlta™ 24p HDW-F900 HDCAM™camcorder system that was used to shoot Star Wars Episode 2.

Sony and Panavision worked with Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) and Lucasfilm on a series of tests that convinced George Lucas and producer, Rick McCallum of the benefits of shooting in digital 24P at 1920 x 1080 HD sampling.

The cost savings for Film Makers is tremendous. Said the producer McCallum, He estimates a saving of US$1.6 million in film stock, dailies (rushes), sound transfers, lab and telecine costs alone. He also maintains that he can document a total saving to the overall production of between $2.5 to 3 million dollars, by shooting HD over film.

On Star Wars Episode 1, Phantom Menace, Lucas shot the equivalent of 1.2 million feet of 35mm film (or about 20,000 feet a day). This would have cost the production $684,000 just for the raw film stock alone. By comparison, Lucas only spent $15,000 for HD tape stock.

For Episode 1 they scanned over a million feet of 35mm film into the digital domain, so they could input it to their computers, making Episode 2,this step was skipped saving some $500,000.

During the shooting, they made true video clones of all the material each day. So they could produce a number of masters that were effectively indistinguishable from each other. This procedure dramatically reduced their negative insurance costs to the tune of about $125,000.

Additional information can be found in the article "Digital Cinema By George" published in the American Cinematographer magazine, September, 2001 page 66. Also in the article "Framing The Future" on page 76 in the same issue.
Filmmaker George Lucas has authored technological innovations feb18 2004, The HollyWood Reporter

Lucasfilm is now using Sony's New 4:4:4 High-Definition Recording System For Star Wars: Episode III, HDC-F950 HD camera and the SRW-5000 HDCAM SR VTR. The HDC-F950 captures uncompressed images at a resolution of 1920 x 1080 in 4:4:4 RGB
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Old July 25th, 2005, 07:17 AM   #9
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Oh it would be great if I could steal such a cam, or 'borrow' it from Lucasfilm :-p
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Old July 25th, 2005, 07:30 PM   #10
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Lucas also started using a real time preview of the CG during filiming using a large flat panel display. He could see the final (or close to) sets replacing the blue/green screen while the talent was performing. (this was for Episode III). Pictures showed a comfortable couch on the set and instant playback. very cool.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 11:00 PM   #11
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it's true. search through theforce.net or go on their fanforce message board. it's both the qui gon checking anakin's blood scene as well as ob1 gets promoted scene with yoda@the end.

twas a prototype. episode2 was the first production model.
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Old July 27th, 2005, 05:34 AM   #12
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Guys,

Yes ep1 was shot on film, but the rumour Ben is referring to is that Lucas said at the time that he shot one scene with HD and challenged anyone to tell him which one it was....
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Old July 27th, 2005, 08:56 AM   #13
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what has been said by ben burtt&lucas is no rumor. the rumor revolves around which shot is HD>
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Old July 31st, 2005, 06:14 PM   #14
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Actually, it's only the checking of the blood scene, and that is it - using a prototype of the F900 and, if I am not mistaken, the first specially made panavision lenses they managed to get to work with the camera (though not used for Ep. II).

The scene with Obi-Wan's promotion is shot on film - if you watch the documentary "The Beginning" on the DVD, when they get to the filming of that scene with Frank Oz, the Panavision cameras they used to film it are plainly visible in the background.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 12:05 AM   #15
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any confirmation of that josh? i can't find it anywhere in news sources.
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