Unhappy about new Star Trek movie

Leo Pepingco · May 28th, 2006, 08:48 AM

My first foray into sci-fi books was the Halo series with the Reach Prologue to the game.

Keith Loh · May 28th, 2006, 11:15 AM

These scifi authors have provided me with great entertainment over the years:

Kim Stanley Robinson
Neal Stephenson
Dan Simmons
China Mieville
Iain M. Banks

Older generation but still producing:
Robert Silverberg
William Gibson
Gene Wolfe
C.J. Cherryh
Fred Saberhagen
Joe Haldeman

Kelly Goden · May 28th, 2006, 02:14 PM

What i dont like is the "science as religion" approach to sci-fi where supposedly it only works if the science is real or possible--kind of pointless for a fiction story. Just using the term "sci-fi" is supposedly un-pc. You are supposed to say "SF" when talking about "respectable" science fiction.

1968 had the two sides of the coin for movies: 2001: A Space Odyssey..visually striking--but not exactly an accessible film. I still dont understand the point of it.

The other is Planet of the Apes. Both have philosophical content but go in completely different directions.

I love it when the gorilla guard is blasting Heston with the water hose and says: shut up you freak!!!

It's a madhouse. A madhoooooouse!

Keith Loh · May 28th, 2006, 05:26 PM

I like the term "speculative fiction". That would cover a lot of ground from magical realism to hard science.

Joe Carney · May 31st, 2006, 01:29 PM

<<1968 had the two sides of the coin for movies: 2001: A Space Odyssey..visually striking--but not exactly an accessible film. I still dont understand the point of it<<

It was about the ascension of man into a purely spiritual being (aka pure energy). BTW in the actual book(s) the monoliths name is Lucifer. Clarke is virulantly antiChristian and makes no bones about it in his books. Even in Childhoods End the aliens witnessing the transformation look like our traditional pictures of Satan, horns and tails included.

If you can get by that, he has written some great SF and was the one who first conceived of a sattlelite staying at a fixed point in space above earth(geosynchronous). All modern communication birds as based on his theories.

Kelly Goden · June 6th, 2006, 07:36 PM

<It was about the ascension of man into a purely spiritual being (aka pure energy).>

**
that is the most succinct breakdown of it I have ever read.

May 28th, 2006, 11:15 AM	#92
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May 28th, 2006, 05:26 PM	#94
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	I like the term "speculative fiction". That would cover a lot of ground from magical realism to hard science. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 31st, 2006, 01:29 PM	#95
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	<<1968 had the two sides of the coin for movies: 2001: A Space Odyssey..visually striking--but not exactly an accessible film. I still dont understand the point of it<< It was about the ascension of man into a purely spiritual being (aka pure energy). BTW in the actual book(s) the monoliths name is Lucifer. Clarke is virulantly antiChristian and makes no bones about it in his books. Even in Childhoods End the aliens witnessing the transformation look like our traditional pictures of Satan, horns and tails included. If you can get by that, he has written some great SF and was the one who first conceived of a sattlelite staying at a fixed point in space above earth(geosynchronous). All modern communication birds as based on his theories. __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

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May 28th, 2006, 08:48 AM	#91
Leo Pepingco Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 275	My first foray into sci-fi books was the Halo series with the Reach Prologue to the game.

May 28th, 2006, 02:14 PM	#93
Kelly Goden Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Surrey BC Posts: 259	What i dont like is the "science as religion" approach to sci-fi where supposedly it only works if the science is real or possible--kind of pointless for a fiction story. Just using the term "sci-fi" is supposedly un-pc. You are supposed to say "SF" when talking about "respectable" science fiction. 1968 had the two sides of the coin for movies: 2001: A Space Odyssey..visually striking--but not exactly an accessible film. I still dont understand the point of it. The other is Planet of the Apes. Both have philosophical content but go in completely different directions. I love it when the gorilla guard is blasting Heston with the water hose and says: shut up you freak!!! It's a madhouse. A madhoooooouse!

June 6th, 2006, 07:36 PM	#96
Kelly Goden Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Surrey BC Posts: 259	<It was about the ascension of man into a purely spiritual being (aka pure energy).> ** that is the most succinct breakdown of it I have ever read.