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Raji Barbir · April 29th, 2006, 10:09 PM

Has anyone seen this? I saw the film the day it came out and loved it. The acting feels real, the chaos was unbelieveable and the film worked remarkably well emotionally.

if you haven't seen it yet, go see it now!

Frank Granovski · April 30th, 2006, 05:27 AM

Is that the one that aired on A&E? Lots of Canadian actors in it. I wonder where it was filmed. (I saw it today.)

Boyd Ostroff · April 30th, 2006, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Granovski

Is that the one that aired on A&E?

No, it's a new movie in theatres which is getting a lot of press.

http://www.united93movie.com/index.php

I heard a discussion on the radio about this film the other day, and when they ask people there's a sharp divide between those who say they're definitely going to see it and those who say "no interest whatsoever" with very little middle ground. Personally, I'm in the "no interest whatsoever" camp. I don't doubt that it's a good movie, but it's just something I don't want to see.

Raji Barbir · April 30th, 2006, 09:36 AM

how did that A&E movie turn out anyway? I saw some ads for it (i only have network TV) but that was it.

Hugh DiMauro · May 1st, 2006, 06:39 AM

I decided to see United 93. Our local controversy stems from whether or not the American people are ready for such a movie detailing the "Pearl Harbor" of our generation. Our newspaper carried front page region section stories describing how some audience members were overcome with grief and emotion. The movie has no happy ending. So is it a downer or a motivator?

I thought long and hard.

The movie was a downer AND a motivator. Apparently, director Paul Greengrass used a few non-actors and from what I've heard, the man playing the pilot was an actual pilot. It looked like a well-filmed documentary. It would be difficult for any American not to feel a bit down after seeing this movie but let me tell you, from a personal standpoint, I was also moved by the bravery, common sense under pressure and bold hope displayed by those few passengers who gave it the hard-charging American spirit needed to at least try to wrestle back control of the aircraft. Apparently, the director kept as close to the truth as possible and if that's the case, they just might have had a shot at landing since one of the passengers was a small engine pilot and one was an air traffic controller who both agreed to work side by side to land the aircraft.

True leadership is an interesting study. Amazing things can happen when a group of motivated Americans put their minds towards a goal. I urge anyobody who's ready to see this movie to do so. It showcases the American spirit under pressure.

Greg Boston · May 1st, 2006, 07:02 AM

Interesting review. I too remember there being a licensed pilot aboard even though he wasn't ATP rated. As a licensed private pilot myself, I believe they would have had a good shot because the same Microsoft Flight Sim software that the terrorists used for some of their training is what I used to get a feel for maneuvering the larger birds. Also, many of the newer jets have a full autoland system although they don't use it much in the US. I did fly British Airways to London on the then new Boeing 777 and since the weather was good, they did a full autoland just to get some practice time in. Let me tell you, that thing literally greased itself on the centerline of the runway and was probably one of the smoothesst landings I've ever experienced in commercial aviation.

Was very good to meet you at NAB. Maybe I'll get out to DVEXPO east this year.

-gb-

Hugh DiMauro · May 1st, 2006, 08:06 AM

Wassup, Home Slice? Listen, I once read a Nelson DeMille book where he described a 747 auto landing and I thought he was just taking creative license. So that is actually true? Holy cow! The technology! I am simply amazed.

Go see the movie. You will walk out of the theatre chest out, standing a bit taller. I was moved.

Bob Zimmerman · May 1st, 2006, 08:27 AM

I think that is true.

Boyd Ostroff · May 1st, 2006, 08:51 AM

Moderator note: this thread has been merged with another of the same name from the "TOTEM Pole" forum.

Hugh DiMauro · May 2nd, 2006, 08:05 AM

The movie was shot in England, I believe.

http://www.united93movie.com/index.php

Frank Granovski · May 2nd, 2006, 04:52 PM

Is this a different movie than the one they just played on A&E? I meant the one on A&E.

Hugh DiMauro · May 2nd, 2006, 06:27 PM

Yes, a different movie. The one on A & E was called, I think, Flight 93. Kind of silly, really, like having three Poseidon Adventures. I mean, c'mon, man, there's only one Gene Hackman. The The 1972 original was and always will be the best.

Raji Barbir · May 6th, 2006, 04:03 PM

one of the things that stood out in the movie, for me, was something that i think Roger Ebert pointed out in his own review.

There is never a real sense of heroics in anyone's acting. The famous "let's roll" phrase is said in a much more subdued way than i would have thought. Everything that happens on the ground feels like pure confusion and near-panick. That's not to say that this is closer to a documentary, i just thought it was very refreshing to portray ALL the characters (yes, INCLUDING the terrorists), as human and normal instead of over-the-top heroic or villain.

Joe Carney · May 6th, 2006, 11:33 PM

I'm going to have to see this.
And Greg, it was great meeting a home boy at NAB. It's a small world.

Greg Boston · May 7th, 2006, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Carney

I'm going to have to see this.
And Greg, it was great meeting a home boy at NAB. It's a small world.

Yes it is, due in part to the internet and forums such as this. I made the same observation and mentioned it to Rob and Dylan as we walked back to our hotel.

-gb-

April 29th, 2006, 10:09 PM	#1
Raji Barbir Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 97	United 93 Has anyone seen this? I saw the film the day it came out and loved it. The acting feels real, the chaos was unbelieveable and the film worked remarkably well emotionally. if you haven't seen it yet, go see it now!

May 1st, 2006, 06:39 AM	#5
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	United 93 I decided to see United 93. Our local controversy stems from whether or not the American people are ready for such a movie detailing the "Pearl Harbor" of our generation. Our newspaper carried front page region section stories describing how some audience members were overcome with grief and emotion. The movie has no happy ending. So is it a downer or a motivator? I thought long and hard. The movie was a downer AND a motivator. Apparently, director Paul Greengrass used a few non-actors and from what I've heard, the man playing the pilot was an actual pilot. It looked like a well-filmed documentary. It would be difficult for any American not to feel a bit down after seeing this movie but let me tell you, from a personal standpoint, I was also moved by the bravery, common sense under pressure and bold hope displayed by those few passengers who gave it the hard-charging American spirit needed to at least try to wrestle back control of the aircraft. Apparently, the director kept as close to the truth as possible and if that's the case, they just might have had a shot at landing since one of the passengers was a small engine pilot and one was an air traffic controller who both agreed to work side by side to land the aircraft. True leadership is an interesting study. Amazing things can happen when a group of motivated Americans put their minds towards a goal. I urge anyobody who's ready to see this movie to do so. It showcases the American spirit under pressure. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

May 1st, 2006, 08:06 AM	#7
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	Hey Greg: Wassup, Home Slice? Listen, I once read a Nelson DeMille book where he described a 747 auto landing and I thought he was just taking creative license. So that is actually true? Holy cow! The technology! I am simply amazed. Go see the movie. You will walk out of the theatre chest out, standing a bit taller. I was moved. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

May 2nd, 2006, 08:05 AM	#10
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	The movie was shot in England, I believe. http://www.united93movie.com/index.php __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

May 2nd, 2006, 06:27 PM	#12
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	Yes, a different movie. The one on A & E was called, I think, Flight 93. Kind of silly, really, like having three Poseidon Adventures. I mean, c'mon, man, there's only one Gene Hackman. The The 1972 original was and always will be the best. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

April 30th, 2006, 05:27 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Is that the one that aired on A&E? Lots of Canadian actors in it. I wonder where it was filmed. (I saw it today.)

April 30th, 2006, 09:36 AM	#4
Raji Barbir Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 97	how did that A&E movie turn out anyway? I saw some ads for it (i only have network TV) but that was it.

May 1st, 2006, 07:02 AM	#6
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Interesting review. I too remember there being a licensed pilot aboard even though he wasn't ATP rated. As a licensed private pilot myself, I believe they would have had a good shot because the same Microsoft Flight Sim software that the terrorists used for some of their training is what I used to get a feel for maneuvering the larger birds. Also, many of the newer jets have a full autoland system although they don't use it much in the US. I did fly British Airways to London on the then new Boeing 777 and since the weather was good, they did a full autoland just to get some practice time in. Let me tell you, that thing literally greased itself on the centerline of the runway and was probably one of the smoothesst landings I've ever experienced in commercial aviation. Was very good to meet you at NAB. Maybe I'll get out to DVEXPO east this year. -gb-

May 1st, 2006, 08:27 AM	#8
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	I think that is true.

May 1st, 2006, 08:51 AM	#9
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Moderator note: this thread has been merged with another of the same name from the "TOTEM Pole" forum.

May 2nd, 2006, 04:52 PM	#11
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Is this a different movie than the one they just played on A&E? I meant the one on A&E.

May 6th, 2006, 04:03 PM	#13
Raji Barbir Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 97	one of the things that stood out in the movie, for me, was something that i think Roger Ebert pointed out in his own review. There is never a real sense of heroics in anyone's acting. The famous "let's roll" phrase is said in a much more subdued way than i would have thought. Everything that happens on the ground feels like pure confusion and near-panick. That's not to say that this is closer to a documentary, i just thought it was very refreshing to portray ALL the characters (yes, INCLUDING the terrorists), as human and normal instead of over-the-top heroic or villain.

May 6th, 2006, 11:33 PM	#14
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	I'm going to have to see this. And Greg, it was great meeting a home boy at NAB. It's a small world. __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!