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Jim Andrada October 29th, 2014 11:06 PM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
I doubt it. I didn't see anything about a battery except re mounting plates for V-Lock or AB batteries and I'm sure there's no media included.

I think this is a case where you spend $5k for the body and another $5 - $10k (or more) to have something you can actually shoot with. My take on what you can expect to get from BM is basically a sensor in a shell with some firmware and a couple of control buttons. I think they're pretty much in the business of selling a sensor with a lens mount and display and a few buttons, not a complete camera.

Mike Watson October 30th, 2014 01:39 PM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1044785-REG/blackmagic_design_cinecamursa4k_ef_ursa_4k_digital_cinema.html
The Ursa is in stock at B&H.

Mat Thompson October 31st, 2014 04:26 PM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
I'm lost at why manufacturers are selling/designing cameras without viewfinders or with quite bad ones!

I can mount a monitor on the far fewer occasions that I need one. What I need is s really nice well thought through view finder.

Of course you can add after market but they never seem to integrate ad well.

As far as the Ursa...why that huge screen? Baffled !

Mike Watson October 31st, 2014 04:44 PM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
Do I read correctly that there is no way to use the iris on EF mount lenses, outside of a "momentary auto iris" button, and no plans to institute iris control? Am I missing something?

Jim Andrada October 31st, 2014 08:30 PM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
I think, particularly in the case of BM, they aren't selling cameras. They're selling a sensor and I/O block with a display of sorts and leaving it up to the user to build a real camera around it with parts sourced from third parties. Their motto should be "Every man a systems integrator"

Sort of like RED selling a "Brain", except you can get all the other parts from RED and they've been engineered to work together. Unlike BM.

Not that this is necessarily a bad thing, you just have to understand the business model and not be surprised. I have three BM "devices" so I'm obviously OK with the concept.

Bill Bruner November 2nd, 2014 11:51 PM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
Hi Haitham - here's a post where I list everything you need (Blackmagic shoulder kit, 2 x 32GB CFast 2.0 cards, a CFast 2.0 reader, a V mount battery plate and an inexpensive V mount battery solution):

If you want a cinema camera below $8000 that can also do weddings, I recommend the $5995 Blackmagic URSA EF mount with the $345 shoulder mount kit as pictured here: https://images.blackmagicdesign.com/media/products/ursa/accessories/batt... (link is external)


You'll also need a couple of $180 CFast 2.0 cards, a $50 Sandisk Extreme Pro CFast 2.0 Reader/Writer, a $185 V mount battery plate and a V mount battery solution of some kind (I would get a couple of $10 Sony NP-F550 batteries (link is external), a $50 NP-F to V-mount adapter (link is external) and a $17 dual battery charger (link is external)).

With $349 Rokinon 14mm T3.1, $479 Rokinon 35mm T1.5 and $309 Rokinon 85mm T1.5 lenses, you will have a very capable Super 35mm camera for a little over $8000 - with Ultra High Definition "4K" at 60fps, built-in XLR jacks, the ability to record to 12-bit RAW or 10-bit ProRes.

With this list, you can be up and running for a little over $7000 body-only.

Good luck!

Bill

Haitham Lawati November 4th, 2014 12:23 PM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
In fact, I am very much fascinated with URSA and have a big intention to purchase it. What makes me hesitated are some physical and technical attributes which I consider them drawbacks, such as heavy weight, no included battery, no view finder, no shoulder mount, etc.
It is quite early to arise this question but I find it necessary to do so before having any decision taken in this regard: is there any difference between URSA and Production 4K in terms of image quality (i.e. sharpness, color space, etc.)

Jim Andrada November 4th, 2014 05:57 PM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
Speculation on my part but I suspect they'd be pretty close assuming the same lens.

Haitham Lawati November 6th, 2014 03:14 AM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
Does URSA have built-in audio, or is it necessary to purchase an external microphone?

Bill Bruner November 7th, 2014 05:58 AM

Re: Inquiry About Blackmagic Design URSA
 
This review from Faymus Media should answer a lot of your questions:




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