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May 26th, 2012, 08:48 PM
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Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
How do I record 1920x1080 59.94i to the Shuttle? It says it supports it, but when I switch the f3 framerate to 59.94i, the hyperdeck only records 2 images stacked on top of each other. I had to revert to using the on board xdcam clip because I tried everything and can't get it to record that framerate.
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May 27th, 2012, 03:31 AM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Did you have the F3 set to 3g? If so it actually output 60p and not 60i. Try setting the F3 to 1.5g and see if that solves the problem.
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May 27th, 2012, 08:00 AM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Thanks Chris, i tried switching the settings to both 1.5 and 3. Still shows double images.
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May 27th, 2012, 08:39 AM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
And you have it connected to SDI "A"?
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May 28th, 2012, 03:24 PM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Yes, it's connected to sdiA
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May 29th, 2012, 07:04 AM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
It's probably because the Shuttle 2 does not have 3G, nor does it support frame rates higher than 60i/30p.
You need the rack mounted Hyperdecks for 3G and 50/60p. The Gemini works nicely at 60P. I think BMD made a bit of a mistake in some of their press releases and literature which states that it has 3G when the tech specs quite clearly don't include 3G. Frankly I'd have been been surprised if it did because a single SSD isn't fast enough for uncompressed 1080p50.
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May 29th, 2012, 08:03 PM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Yeah because it clearly states is supports 59.94i/1080. That was a huge plus for me when I bought it, then find out it doesn't have that capability really sucks. Now that you mention it, it DOES say in the tech specs it is 3G. Hmmm. But wouldn't 59.94i/1080 still be supported by single sdi, 1.5g? I understand 59.94p isn't doable without dual link...but I thought 59.94i was. Either way....I guess I have to do 60fps to cards. Lame-a-roo.
On a side note, anyone want to buy a barely used Hyperdeck Shuttle 2? Lol |
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May 29th, 2012, 08:11 PM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Looks like the only port you can get a true interlaced SDI signal from is the MONITOR SDI port. Give that one a go and it should work.
I just read over the supplemental F3 manual and the SDI A and B outputs are always progressive.
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May 29th, 2012, 08:20 PM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Oooooh....I think you may be onto something. I'll give 'er a whirl.
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May 30th, 2012, 01:00 AM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Chris is right that the only port you can get 50i/60i out is the monitor Sdi which is only 1.5G.Sorry I was a little confused as the thread heading is for 60 fps, 60i is 30fps not 60 fps
The shuttle does NOT have 3G, even though BMD say it does in their press releases. The tech specs show that it is only 1.5G.
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May 31st, 2012, 11:10 AM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Okay that's the trick...recording from the SDI MONITOR plug. Works like a charm. Thanks Chris!
On another note...if you guys were recording slomo (60p slowed to 24p), what do you think would achieve the best results? 1080/60p to the cards in 8bit log....or 720/60p to the Hyperdeck in 10bit? |
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May 31st, 2012, 01:16 PM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Unfortunately the F3 doesn't record 60p in 1080 to the card. It only records 60p in 720 to the card.
I would recommend using 10bit for S-log. I have used S-log to the internal card but would rather use an external recorder for it. Depending on the subject matter and the display size dropping to 720 may not be noticeable. Give it a try and see what works best.
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November 14th, 2012, 07:55 PM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
Okay, I can't for the life of me get the F3 to send 720p 60p to the shuttle. The shuttle records two images stacked on top of each other. Any suggestions? I tried using the sdi out plug to no avail.
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November 14th, 2012, 08:18 PM
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Re: Shuttle 2 / Sony F3 and 60fps
You can only get 720p60 from the monitor SDI port. SDI A/B will only output a 1080 signal.
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