Disney to go with Blu-Ray

Bill Koehler · February 11th, 2008, 09:58 PM

http://www.dailytech.com/Best+Buy+to...ticle10652.htm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1202...ml?mod=djemTEW
May need subscription to read.

A key paragraph from the WSJ article.

Toshiba has been running an extensive marketing campaign, including price cuts and steady advertising, to keep consumers interested in HD DVD, but didn't make promises about the future of its format after Monday's news about the retailers. "Given these developments, Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players," a spokeswoman said. She called the decision by Best Buy "unfortunate."

Boyd Ostroff · February 12th, 2008, 09:05 AM

See also the following related thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114554

Bill Koehler · February 12th, 2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyd Ostroff

See also the following related thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114554

I have. I wasn't sure whether I should just add to that or start a new thread. If you wish to consolidate, please do!

Tim Polster · February 13th, 2008, 07:32 PM

Hello,

I have reading a bit on Blu-Ray specs and the white papers from the Blu-Ray site state that Blu-ray does 1080p24 but does not mention 1080p60?

I know a lot of players mention 1080p60 output, but the more I think about it, how are these players outputting 1080p60?

Are they adding to the 1080i signal?

Not many, if any cameras I have heard of shoot at 1080p60 and film is at 24p, so does anybody know what I am missing?

Also, why is 1080p30 or 720p30 left out of the Blu-ray spec?

These are frame rates cameras can shoot in.

Thanks for your help!

Aaron Courtney · February 13th, 2008, 09:19 PM

Perhaps the players are referring to the HDMI spec since I believe 1920x1080p60 has been written into the spec since its inception. Of course, v1.3 has moved well beyond that to 1440 or 1600?, LOL. However, try to find an HDMI cable capable of passing 10.2 Gb/s today over any respectable distance. And this is one of the reasons why the entire custom A/V install business is going crazy trying to distribute HDMI at this point and why component is still the preferred distributed medium of choice. But the image constraint token is poised to doom component vid and piss off a lot of people who have spents 10's to 100's of thousands of $$$ on whole home distributed A/V systems.

Tim Polster · February 14th, 2008, 11:56 PM

Anybody else have any ideas?

Robert Lane · February 17th, 2008, 08:32 PM

There are dozens of posts springing up all over, but the question of which HD-disc format will be our future is finally over.

From Best Buy, Netflix and even Toshiba (who is expected to announce their discontinuing the format) Blu Ray has emerged as the clear winner.

Here's just one of several posts on the web:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectid=10491964

Pete Bauer · February 18th, 2008, 07:45 AM

See also this extended thread on the same topic:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114918

Dana Salsbury · February 19th, 2008, 11:31 AM

Once again, us lowly wedding videographers are ignored by the powers that be. I need to burn to Blu-Ray yesterday. HD DVD was/is no problem. Is there any word??

Alastair Brown · February 19th, 2008, 05:09 PM

What do you edit with? Vegas can burn to Blu-Ray from the timeline (not for me though:-()

Victor Kellar · February 19th, 2008, 06:10 PM

Still no official Mac Blu Ray burning capability. It looks like Blu Ray has won the battle but I wouldn't expect anything for DVD SP for a while

If you have an Intel Mac you could run Bootcamp and install a product like Encore on the PC side and burn out to Toast. Not at all a cheap option but one available to you. If, like me, you are still humping along on an old G5, you are still in wait and see mode

Mike Barber · February 19th, 2008, 07:31 PM

It was a no-brainer many of us saw coming miles away...

http://www.electronista.com/articles....drops.hd.dvd/

Konrad Czystowski · February 19th, 2008, 07:42 PM

I'm happy
BR will be better option for us to archive.

Boyd Ostroff · February 19th, 2008, 07:57 PM

We already have a huge thread on this topic, so please direct your comments here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114918

Thanks!

Miles Martin · February 27th, 2008, 05:53 PM

I did a search here and couldn't find the answer, so if this was answered before, I apologize.

I plan on burning our HDV wedding videos to Blu-Ray and was wondering how much time will a Blu-Ray disc hold?

25 gigs = ? minutes
50 gigs = ? minutes

Thanks.

February 11th, 2008, 09:58 PM	#106
Bill Koehler Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA Posts: 760	Best Buy To Push Blu-Ray Titles, Hardware http://www.dailytech.com/Best+Buy+to...ticle10652.htm http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1202...ml?mod=djemTEW May need subscription to read. A key paragraph from the WSJ article. Toshiba has been running an extensive marketing campaign, including price cuts and steady advertising, to keep consumers interested in HD DVD, but didn't make promises about the future of its format after Monday's news about the retailers. "Given these developments, Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players," a spokeswoman said. She called the decision by Best Buy "unfortunate." Last edited by Bill Koehler; February 11th, 2008 at 11:44 PM. Reason: Found more information.

February 13th, 2008, 07:32 PM	#109
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	Blu-Ray Specs and 1080p60 Hello, I have reading a bit on Blu-Ray specs and the white papers from the Blu-Ray site state that Blu-ray does 1080p24 but does not mention 1080p60? I know a lot of players mention 1080p60 output, but the more I think about it, how are these players outputting 1080p60? Are they adding to the 1080i signal? Not many, if any cameras I have heard of shoot at 1080p60 and film is at 24p, so does anybody know what I am missing? Also, why is 1080p30 or 720p30 left out of the Blu-ray spec? These are frame rates cameras can shoot in. Thanks for your help!

February 17th, 2008, 08:32 PM	#112
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Blu Ray wins the war There are dozens of posts springing up all over, but the question of which HD-disc format will be our future is finally over. From Best Buy, Netflix and even Toshiba (who is expected to announce their discontinuing the format) Blu Ray has emerged as the clear winner. Here's just one of several posts on the web: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectid=10491964

February 18th, 2008, 07:45 AM	#113
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February 19th, 2008, 11:31 AM	#114
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	When can I burn Blu-Ray?! Once again, us lowly wedding videographers are ignored by the powers that be. I need to burn to Blu-Ray yesterday. HD DVD was/is no problem. Is there any word?? __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

February 12th, 2008, 09:05 AM	#107
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	See also the following related thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114554

February 13th, 2008, 09:19 PM	#110
Aaron Courtney Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 229	Perhaps the players are referring to the HDMI spec since I believe 1920x1080p60 has been written into the spec since its inception. Of course, v1.3 has moved well beyond that to 1440 or 1600?, LOL. However, try to find an HDMI cable capable of passing 10.2 Gb/s today over any respectable distance. And this is one of the reasons why the entire custom A/V install business is going crazy trying to distribute HDMI at this point and why component is still the preferred distributed medium of choice. But the image constraint token is poised to doom component vid and piss off a lot of people who have spents 10's to 100's of thousands of $$$ on whole home distributed A/V systems.

February 14th, 2008, 11:56 PM	#111
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	Anybody else have any ideas?

February 19th, 2008, 05:09 PM	#115
Alastair Brown Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Glasgow/Scotland Posts: 626	What do you edit with? Vegas can burn to Blu-Ray from the timeline (not for me though:-()

February 19th, 2008, 06:10 PM	#116
Victor Kellar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 239	Still no official Mac Blu Ray burning capability. It looks like Blu Ray has won the battle but I wouldn't expect anything for DVD SP for a while If you have an Intel Mac you could run Bootcamp and install a product like Encore on the PC side and burn out to Toast. Not at all a cheap option but one available to you. If, like me, you are still humping along on an old G5, you are still in wait and see mode

February 19th, 2008, 07:31 PM	#117
Mike Barber Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto ON Canada Posts: 731	HD DVD is dead; Blu-ray wins (it's official) It was a no-brainer many of us saw coming miles away... http://www.electronista.com/articles....drops.hd.dvd/ __________________ Mike Barber "I'm laughing to stop myself from screaming."

February 19th, 2008, 07:42 PM	#118
Konrad Czystowski Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Burlington (Canada) Posts: 92	I'm happy BR will be better option for us to archive.

February 19th, 2008, 07:57 PM	#119
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	We already have a huge thread on this topic, so please direct your comments here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114918 Thanks!

February 27th, 2008, 05:53 PM	#120
Miles Martin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Shaler PA Posts: 20	Amount of video on Blu-Ray? I did a search here and couldn't find the answer, so if this was answered before, I apologize. I plan on burning our HDV wedding videos to Blu-Ray and was wondering how much time will a Blu-Ray disc hold? 25 gigs = ? minutes 50 gigs = ? minutes Thanks.