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Old March 19th, 2007, 07:08 AM   #31
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Paulo: could be the case indeed. Saw a lot of advertising suddenly. Had already seen that in the US when I was last down there ;)

Anyway, it's here or nearly here. Will still be interesting to see what it does with Blu-ray sales over the next months
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Old March 19th, 2007, 11:05 PM   #32
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I've been seeing more PS3s in stores, and though my friend is unhappy he can't use HDMI successfully with his Westinghouse Digital 42" LCD (1080p), component isn't bad. I think most of the bugs in the PS3 are getting worked out nicely.

Note, HDMI seems to work best in Sony HDTVs (I have some friends with PS3s and Sony HDTVs). Go figure.

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Old March 20th, 2007, 07:09 AM   #33
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Another story, incl. a "not-so-fast" from HD DVD:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31950

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Old March 20th, 2007, 07:55 AM   #34
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I thought these things were 35mb/s and bad, now I understand. Looked at another BD demo the other day, and the grain is so pronounced. People might think their grain is authentic, but it obscures the authentic image and leads to poor compression (even making the grain more pronounce) I wish they would clean it up before compression.

I wish camera companies would stop playing with us, and introduce cameras that offer the highest BD recording formats.

I thought h264 on the BD toped out at 24mb/s, is 40mb/s for true? If so, it is good news.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 11:58 AM   #35
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I thought h264 on the BD toped out at 24mb/s, is 40mb/s for true? If so, it is good news.
It's true. BD-ROM (movies) supports a maximum rate of 54 Mbps with 40 Mbps for video. The 24 Mbps number is the rate for Japanese digital HD broadcast, including audio & video, so that may be where that number came from.

According to Wikipedia, BD recordable discs support 36 Mbps total. 2x drives support 72 Mbps and 8x drives of 288 Mbps and beyond are expected in the future.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 03:09 PM   #36
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Another story, incl. a "not-so-fast" from HD DVD:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31950

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I could be wrong but I read that you get 5 free HD-DVDs per every HD-DVD player purchased and those vouchers that are included with the PS3 are discounts, not free movies that Toshiba is claiming.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 03:14 PM   #37
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When my family bought me a DVD player in late 1998 for Christmas, I received five free Warner Bros. DVDs (not good movies, incl. Lethal Weapon 4, Sphere and more) and one free Hollywood Video DVD rental a month for a year. Not too bad, plus the old www.reel.com allowed me to buy one DVD and get the second one for a buck.

Just a way to sell more of the product.

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Old March 20th, 2007, 04:02 PM   #38
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This War is so freakin awesome! Toshiba is set to reduce MSRP of their HD DVD players on April 1st.

HD-A2 will drop to $399
HD-A20 will be $499 (despite being announced at CES at $599)
HD-XA2 will be $799

Street prices should be pretty damn nice. I'm ready to buy a player and take advantage of 7 free movies.

http://www.valueelectronics.com/Tosh...A20_HD_DVD.htm

Then I'll grab a Blu-ray or Universal player next year for full movie support. Sometimes the consumer can win in a War.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 04:15 PM   #39
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Interesting take on it, Harrison. That's why I asked for an SD DVD player in 1998--they wanted us, the consumers, to buy with great incentives.

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Old March 20th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #40
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When my family bought me a DVD player in late 1998 for Christmas, I received five free Warner Bros. DVDs (not good movies, incl. Lethal Weapon 4, Sphere and more) and one free Hollywood Video DVD rental a month for a year. Not too bad, plus the old www.reel.com allowed me to buy one DVD and get the second one for a buck.

Just a way to sell more of the product.

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Heath,

Lethal Weapon 4 and Sphere is not "THAT" bad!

I just want this thing settled, but my fears are that it will not be for a long time, maybe years.

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Old March 20th, 2007, 06:35 PM   #41
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This War is so freakin awesome! Toshiba is set to reduce MSRP of their HD DVD players on April 1st.

HD-A2 will drop to $399
HD-A20 will be $499 (despite being announced at CES at $599)
HD-XA2 will be $799
The HD-A2 is already down to $356.99 at Amazon.com...
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A2-...dp/B000IJV4BC/

But I would tend to agree that Blu-ray is starting to show signs of coming out on top. Check out http://www.thedvdwars.com This site scrapes info off of Amazon product pages, turning sales ranks into comparative charts.

There is also a good article in PC Magazine showing Blu-ray outselling HD DVD 2:1 this year (roughly). http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2104850,00.asp

There are still NO HD DVD burners available, while there are 5 or 6 models of Blu-ray burners (and they have been available for 9 months).

It isn't over until it's over... but so far it looks like Sony's sponsorship of Blu-ray, costly as it has been, is proving to be a deciding factor in the HD disc format war.

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Old March 20th, 2007, 06:43 PM   #42
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There are still NO HD DVD burners available, while there are 5 or 6 models of Blu-ray burners (and they have been available for 9 months).


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Not true! A quick search found this:

http://keyword.netscape.com/ns/boomf...ner-for-pcs%2F
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Old March 20th, 2007, 06:57 PM   #43
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The HD-A2 is already down to $356.99 at Amazon.com...
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A2-...dp/B000IJV4BC/
The retail price of the XA2 is already 799 in a lot of authorized dealers and Amazon has it at 599. That player is barely a few months old and you can already get it at 400 dollars off.

The XA2 is the one to get. The A2 can’t even do 1080p.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 07:41 PM   #44
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Not true! A quick search found this:

http://keyword.netscape.com/ns/boomf...ner-for-pcs%2F
This is a press release. Can you find this burner, or any HD DVD burners for sale?

Let me know.

Actually, Toshiba has shipped some high-end notebooks with HD DVD burners, but not in large quantities.

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Old March 20th, 2007, 07:53 PM   #45
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Actually, Toshiba has shipped some high-end notebooks with HD DVD burners, but not in large quantities.

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Wouldn't that negate your question right there?
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