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Old September 15th, 2011, 04:10 PM   #1
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Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

Just received a "save the date" email from Canon USA... hmmm.

Message contained an image (attached here) and nothing more.

"Canon is making an historic global announcement." Speculation?
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Old September 15th, 2011, 04:13 PM   #2
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re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

camera with a "4th pixel"? ala Sharp or whoever had that on TV... since I see a yellow light in there...
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Old September 15th, 2011, 04:36 PM   #3
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

Let me guess: the long awaited and oft rumored large sensor, interchangable lens, 4:2:2, 50mbps XF codec HD Canon camera.
Why do I think this? Because I just bought an FS100. It would just figure....
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Old September 15th, 2011, 04:42 PM   #4
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

The dream camera:

1. Using same codec as XF 100/300 series.

2. Large sensor: Same size as the Canon 5D, but lower pixel count to control or eliminate moire and aliasing issues. Also with a selectable filter for reduction.

3, EOS mount to support all Canon lenses.

4. Has XLR inputs. Tracks are individually adjustable.

5. Has internal NDs.

6. Low noise up to 6400 ISO

7. external outputs 4:4:4 for external recording.

8. Component design for accessory add on.

9. 5 inch HD on camera monitor LCD, with swing down slightly magnified eyepiece.

10. Twin card slots for continuous recording.

11. Price point. MSR: w/o Lens: $ 3999


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Oh, lets add a set of Canon CInema lenses for $2500.
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Old September 15th, 2011, 05:06 PM   #5
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

Let's remember that Canon USA announced a pair of PL-mount 4K cinema lenses at NAB back in April:

Canon U.S.A. Introduces Two PL-Mount Digital Cine Zoom Lenses With Full 4K Image Format Performance
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Old September 15th, 2011, 05:11 PM   #6
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

Sounds like you are thinking high end cinema competition for Sony ? Well I said dream camera,,,,,:)
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Old September 15th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #7
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

If I actually knew something about it, I wouldn't be at liberty to say.

But I haven't been NDA'ed on this deal so I don't know *anything.*
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Old September 15th, 2011, 05:51 PM   #8
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

I just awoke from a feverish daydream and think I have this figured out.

It's a headworn unit that shoots 4k images 24/7 365 and streams them via a new Canon H-595 compression encoding so efficient that it easily stores everything you'll ever shoot in your entire life on old cast off 2gig Sony MemorySticks.

Now every teen on the planet who can afford the unit will be able to archive his or her entire life, moment by moment, hoping that something "chill" happens to them so that their "headcamfeed" gets picked up by Tosh.0 and makes them a star for 73 seconds.

Unfortunately, Sony and Panasonic will sue them claiming that the 24/7 nature of the audio feed makes the whole system illegal under existing "wiretap" laws so the system will remain tied up in litigation until after everyone reading this is long dead.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it...
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Old September 15th, 2011, 05:55 PM   #9
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

I think Mr. Hurd is on the right track. Those PL mount lenses weren't designed for the EOS line of cameras, were they? Canon is shipping lenses for which they have no matching cameras. And the announcement will be made from Hollywood, so this is likely more for Spielberg than for soccer moms and dads. Whatever it is, the poster makes it look significant.

If Canon makes a big pro announcement, I wonder if they will put some of that technology to the next generation of DSLRs. It's always nice to link the identity of consumer models to the quality of pro stuff.

It would be cool if it had a yellow pixel. (Disclaimer: I work for Sharp Laboratories of America.) Four color TV technology is unique to Sharp's Quattron models. The picture quality on the new Elite models is stunning, BTW. But let's please don't take this thread off topic. There is already a related thread here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...4th-pixel.html

I have no inside information on Canon will announce. I can't wait to find out...
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Old September 15th, 2011, 06:05 PM   #10
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

I finally can exhale ..........a bit...........

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ps-Chris I saw this 2 mins after you put it up but we were too busy here......

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Old September 15th, 2011, 06:20 PM   #11
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

For the past several years I've gone to NAB expecting Canon to announce a cinema camera built on some of the 5D technology.

I really wonder if this will be it.

As a Canon video dealer who also sells all the competitors, I have been waiting patiently for something on my side of the fence as opposed to the photo market. Now I have my hopes up again...

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Old September 15th, 2011, 06:40 PM   #12
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2. Large sensor: Same size as the Canon 5D, but lower pixel count to control or eliminate moire and aliasing issues.
The 5D's chip is too big.....it would be like Vistavision....

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Old September 15th, 2011, 06:42 PM   #13
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Old September 15th, 2011, 06:43 PM   #14
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Re: Something new from Canon on Nov. 3rd...

I expected the same (a video camera with 5D2 technology.)

Now that we're nearly three years on, I expect that this will be well beyond 5D2 technology. I also expect it to not have DSLR artifacts (line-skipping moire, 25ms rolling shutter.) In 2009, a video form-factor cam with a DSLR sensor would have been fine. In late 2012, I expect more from a large sensor dedicated video/cinema camera.

BTW, how do we know that this will be a camera? It's a really good assumption, but an assumption nonetheless. For all we know, Canon will go to Paramount on November 3rd to announce that it now owns Paramount. ;)
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Old September 15th, 2011, 08:04 PM   #15
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The DSLR artifacts I except it not to have are a mirror, a penta-prism and an optical viewfinder.
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