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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:42 PM   #1
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See Canon USA Announces Cinema EOS C300 and EOS C300 PL Cameras at DVInfo.net
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:43 PM   #2
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Bit disappointed must admit. Oh well lets hope Red can save the day!
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:44 PM   #3
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Thanks Chris! Enjoy LA. Looks like a great camera.

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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:48 PM   #4
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"The two years that were spent in research and development on this camera were lead by a member of Canon USA’s still photography EOS team."

Why?

It's a cinema camera.

Why has everyone gone mad and abandoned ergonomics? Yes you can stick stuff on it, or you can just design it properly in the first place. I've been waiting for a properly designed large sensor video camera but I guess the wait continues because the only real successful contender, the Alexa, is out of my price range.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:50 PM   #5
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Appreciate the info Chris! Now go and enjoy some Astro Burger :)
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:50 PM   #6
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The Scarlet could be the more interesting camera in a number of respects, especially if you need to shoot slow motion.

I assume Canon have brought out a range of accessories for the camera, which does seem to be a modular design. I assume that these will produce an ergonomic design of some sort, although it does seem to be something that is getting lost a bit.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:52 PM   #7
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Thanks for the specs and write up Chris, have fun in LaLa land.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:53 PM   #8
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:54 PM   #9
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Maybe the most interesting thing is the sensor. 4k, but read as 1080. The method seems exactly as was suggested to me, and I posted here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/new-cano...ml#post1693094

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If you use a photosite count of 3840x2160 (effectively 16:9 4k) it becomes remarkably easy to do a simple (but effective) read to get 1080. You just have to think of it as a 1920x1080 matrix of blocks, each:

B G
G R

So read out directly (instead of deBayering) and you get R,G,B samples at 1920x1080 resolution - or true 4:4:4 1080.
The speculation in that post was that this is how a cheaper model would read it - but a more expensive model would do a true 4k deBayer. Which leads me to think we can expect a further (more sophisticated) model with true 4k. Otherwise there's little sense in using a 4k chip - better to use something like Sony do in the F3 if all you want is 1080.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:59 PM   #10
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I still don't understand how they omitted 1080 60p
No AE !!!!
No AF instead of having remote control AF of their lenses
Why 2 cameras instead of an EF with PL adaptor or vise versa?

I am disappointed.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 06:00 PM   #11
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 06:03 PM   #14
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very much let down, its an OK camera with decent specs with too many features omitted for most everyday camera work. Too much anticipation for an average overpriced camera in todays world, oh well at least the wait is over so I know it is not the choice for me. Are we not filmmakers who need film cameras not souped up photography cameras, I dunno maybe i'm old fashioned
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 06:03 PM   #15
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The wedding and sports shooters can go home, their camera will be here next week.

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