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Old November 3rd, 2014, 04:12 PM   #1
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Canon C100 - Delivering 25p

I am considering buying a Canon C100 because it meets many of my needs for doing documentary-style work. I am currently working on a project that I must deliver as:

PAL 1920x1080 25p (yes, progressive)

The C100 records something called PF25. Was told this means that "25 pictures are flagged in a 50i timeline" and was wondering

1. What does this means?
2. What I need to do to the footage to deliver as specified above?
3. Would said solution have an impact on the quality of my footage?
4. Should I use the Ninja 2 recorder? Ninja Blade? Does it matter?


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I will be editing in Premier or FCP7.

Your input would be most appreciated, especially if you have done this work flow before.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #2
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Re: Canon C100 - Delivering 25p

To get around this issue, I just tell my NLE that the footage is progressive. I use Avid, so can't tell you exactly how that would work in FCP.

I shoot and deliver in 1080 25P and haven't had any issues or seen any negative impact on the quality.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 10:43 PM   #3
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Re: Canon C100 - Delivering 25p

Thanks for your response Jody!

Anyone out there ever shot PF25, recorded on Ninja 2, edited in Premier or FCP7 and successfully delivered 25p?

If so, what's the workflow?


I see this example of a workflow if recording internally (w/out the Ninja) in AVCHD and editing in Premier - http://provideocoalition.com/atepper...e_pro_cs5.5.x/

It sounds like if I record to the Ninja-2, it will do a 2:2 pulldown and record a 25p signal. http://atomos.helponclick.com/kb/art...25p-30p-etc/g5

Would my NLE then seamlessly interpret it as progressive?

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Old November 5th, 2014, 03:30 PM   #4
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Re: Canon C100 - Delivering 25p

I shoot with the C100 in PF25 and edit in FCPX, but also from time to time in Premiere. I also have a Ninja 2.

--- FCPX ---
So, when importing the AVCHD in to FCPX you need to select all the clips in the event browser then go to the inspector --> Info panel and then select Field Override and set to progressive.

If you convert the AVCHD with something like ClipWrap there's no need to do it because Clipwrap takes care of it for you.

When shooting to a Ninja to ProRes it comes in as progressive and there's nothing to do.

--- Premiere Pro ---
Premiere Pro is similar, but you need to select all the clips then right click and choose Modify --> Interpret Footage --> Progressive.

--- FCP 7 ---
Sorry I've now deleted FCP7 but I'm pretty sure there was a very similar method.

If in doubt, re-wrap in something like ClipWrap or record to the Ninja and use ProRes. If you're going to be editing in FCP7 you'll probably end up wanting ProRes anyway.
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