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Old October 8th, 2017, 02:02 AM   #1
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canon c log 3 vs b709?

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When i have not been shooting in raw i have been using canon c log 3 as preset
i have noticed teh footage seems soft.
I tried shooting today some sample footage in b709 again not raw.
the b709 footage seems sharper.
Is this typical? Just curious if most people shoot canon c log 3 when not shooting raw vs other choices
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Old October 12th, 2017, 07:47 AM   #2
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Re: canon c log 3 vs b709?

I've been shooting a lot of WDR and I concur, the footage looks slightly soft. I boosted the sharpness up +2 but I may experiment a bit more and try more sharpening. A lot of this boils down to who is handling post. I shoot a lot of footage that goes straight to the client's websites and does not get much in the way of CC or sharpening in post so this matters to me. If I am editing, I just add sharpness in post, no big deal.

The Cinema RAW Light looks sharper than the .MP4 footage so I have not had issues with CRL footage but the .MP4 does seem soft. Regardless of which PP you are using for .MP4, I would experiment with upping the sharpness a bit. I don't like razor sharp but I do like a little crisp in the eyes especially. It's weird, because on my old C100 and C300, even -3 was too sharp, but on the C200, it appears that 0 sharpening is too soft and even +2, which is where I am at right now, still looks a little soft. I am going to try +4 or +5.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 08:15 AM   #3
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Re: canon c log 3 vs b709?

To update this, when shooting .MP4 for clients, when the footage will see little to no grading or color correction, I have been shooting with the sharpness upped to +3 or 4 with good results. Not over-sharpened, but not as soft as it was. YMMV.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 08:57 AM   #4
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Re: canon c log 3 vs b709?

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I have been shooting with the sharpness upped to +3 or 4 with good results. Not over-sharpened, but not as soft as it was. YMMV.
I have been going over some old C100 footage and I noticed this compared with Rec.709 preset C300 Mark II. Need to develop more of a basic "final look" for clients like what you described, Dan, in both sharpness and saturation, which are the two things I routinely add in quick-turnaround jobs in post.
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